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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 3:04pm

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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 2:42pm

Manners SCHMANNERS 

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I guess the main difference between the sportsmanship form of good manners/respect, and the social one, is that participation in sports is typically a voluntary activity (as coach "Norman Dale" pointed out in Hoosiers). Participation in family events, maybe not so much.{#Wink}

 


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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 2:31pm

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Shameless bump. I have seen people on FB and elsewhere over the years complaining that "the other side" doesn't "respect" the Current Occupant (Bush, Obama, Trump, take your pick). The word is subject to different definitions, which may partly explain why people get alternately P.O.ed by how the president is treated, both in person and in op ed columns/on social media.  The other question that more recent complaints about the Current Occupant have raised is, is the deference/good manners due to a public authority figure dependent upon how much they reciprocate good manners in public?
 
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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 10:59am

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Well it sure as shit ain't bringing your A game...

 
I guess the main difference between the sportsmanship form of good manners/respect, and the social one, is that participation in sports is typically a voluntary activity (as coach "Norman Dale" pointed out in Hoosiers). Participation in family events, maybe not so much.{#Wink}
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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 9:17am

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I would consider bad sportsmanship to be public lack of manners. Sportsmanship is an interesting aspect of manners, as it intersects with personal notions of the value and purpose of competition. Bad sportsmanship is not only a failure of one person in relating to another individual, it is a failure of understanding a fundamental principle of competition in most sports, and threatens the integrity and appeal of sports. I suppose you could look at it from the same perspective in terms of the social fabric, though.

 
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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 9:15am

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Probably a good thing I've never been on FB but my friends love to forward various FACEPLANTS.  Mama always taught us to use good manners in public but privately too.  Bad sportsmanship is always unattractive no matter what the excuse of the player.  ~No Shame in my Game

 
I would consider bad sportsmanship to be public lack of manners. Sportsmanship is an interesting aspect of manners, as it intersects with personal notions of the value and purpose of competition. Bad sportsmanship is not only a failure of one person in relating to another individual, it is a failure of understanding a fundamental principle of competition in most sports, and threatens the integrity and appeal of sports. I suppose you could look at it from the same perspective in terms of the social fabric, though.
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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 7:32am

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 Shameless bump. I have seen people on FB and elsewhere over the years complaining that "the other side" doesn't "respect" the Current Occupant (Bush, Obama, Trump, take your pick). The word is subject to different definitions, which may partly explain why people get alternately P.O.ed by how the president is treated, both in person and in op ed columns/on social media.  The other question that more recent complaints about the Current Occupant have raised is, is the deference/good manners due to a public authority figure dependent upon how much they reciprocate good manners in public?

 
Probably a good thing I've never been on FB but my friends love to forward various FACEPLANTS.  Mama always taught us to use good manners in public but privately too.  Bad sportsmanship is always unattractive no matter what the excuse of the player.  ~No Shame in my Game


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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 7:31am

a great discussion on differences and how respect them and make some actual progress




On college campuses and the political stage, political correctness has been at the forefront of debates about intellectual policing. How are notions of political correctness changing around the world, and how is this impacting the capacity of societies to engage in critical conversations?

· Lonnie Bunch, Director, National Museum of African American History and Culture, Smithsonian Institution, USA

· So-Young Kang, Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Gnowbe, Singapore; Young Global Leader

· Steven Pinker, Johnstone Family Professor of Psychology, Harvard University, USA

· Parvathi Santhosh-Kumar, Director, Network Learning, StriveTogether, USA

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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 7:25am

 Shameless bump. I have seen people on FB and elsewhere over the years complaining that "the other side" doesn't "respect" the Current Occupant (Bush, Obama, Trump, take your pick). The word is subject to different definitions, which may partly explain why people get alternately P.O.ed by how the president is treated, both in person and in op ed columns/on social media.  The other question that more recent complaints about the Current Occupant have raised is, is the deference/good manners due to a public authority figure dependent upon how much they reciprocate good manners in public?

aflanigan previously wrote:
In view of the latest political blow up/pissing contest/contretemps, I thought I would post this for the benefit of posters who lament the poor etiquette and lack of respect shown in the forums.

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(from her recent column In What Respect Do You Mean 'Respect'?)

Dear Miss Manners:
Some friends and I are having a discussion regarding good manners and respect.  

My view is that respect comes from understanding and having good manners. My friends say good manners and respect are separate things, and one can be had without the other.


We are interested in your thoughts on the matter, and I would consider them to be the final word on the subject.


Gentle Reader: Promising Miss Manners that her word will be the final one, even before you have heard it — now that is respect. She thanks you.


The term respect is rather loosely used in the manners business. This leads to the sort of argument in which a parent says, "You have to show more respect for Granny," and the child replies, "Why, since she just got out of jail for petty larceny?"


The sort of respect to which the parent is referring is a part of good manners. It means exhibiting consideration toward everyone and showing special deference to those who are older or in a position of authority.


But the child hears the word to mean the genuine admiration felt for someone who has proved himself to be worthy of it. That sort of respect is, indeed, a thing apart, which etiquette can't mandate.


Manners require only that people show respect, although with the secret hope that the outward form will become internalized.

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I can't speak for Judith Martin, but I think it's fair to summarize her opinion by stating that there are two distinct kinds of respect; the external kind dictated by etiquette, which is due "everyone", and the internal kind which is limited to those who, in our eyes, merit admiration.

I suspect that this is a difficult distinction for some people to draw; they feel disinclined to act politely towards those for whom they feel no internal respect.  Why grant outward respect if there is none inside?

Yet this is the essence of etiquette, is it not?


 

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Posted: Feb 13, 2018 - 12:52am

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We need a committee thread...
 

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Posted: Apr 15, 2010 - 10:24pm

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I started this thread two years ago, with the little comment there (for those like me who have to squint)....

...I'm taking side bets via PM on how long and how many pages before it's totally blown and falls to the neverland of forgotten threads...dollar a shot..

Four months and seven pages.

Respect to Drach and artattack, friends both.

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Let go of what does not fit into the future you envision.

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Posted: Apr 15, 2010 - 10:20pm

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After further review by the judges, it's been decided that "Clank!" is not disrespectful.
 

I can respect the judges for seeing it my way...
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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 1:49pm

Staple Singers...

If you disrespect anybody that you run in to
How in the world do you think anybody's s'posed to respect you
If you don't give a heck 'bout the man with the bible in his hand
Just get out the way, and let the gentleman do his thing
You the kind of gentleman that want everything your way
Take the sheet off your face, boy, it's a brand new day

Respect yourself, respect yourself
If you don't respect yourself
Ain't nobody gonna give a good cahoot, na na na na
Respect yourself, respect yourself

If you're walking 'round think'n that the world owes you something cause
You're here you goin' out the world backwards like you did when you
Put your hand on your mouth when you cough, that'll help the solution
Oh, you cuss around women and you don't even know their names and you
Dumb enough to think that'll make you a big ol man

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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:01pm


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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 11:55am

 lily34 wrote:

and aflan - really timely post. i am happy i read that. food for thought, certainly for me. hopefully for some more of us, too.

 

My pleasure.  Judith Martin is a smart, wise lady, with a sharp wit and good sense of humor.  I have a great deal of respect for her (internal type!) and read her column religiously.
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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 6:46am

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Made perfect sense when I wrote it. {#Lol}

Actually from two points of view. A person can be polite and have manners as well as give respect. The other person can get (earn) respect.

I'm not sure I made sense here either. {#Doh}



{#Lol} no, you made sense both times! really!!

you're right, two points of view.

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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 6:40am

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i think manners are something you can be taught, can learn and have. and respect is something you give - and according to the article below, yes, it is earned, but also is good manners to give to elders, etc. in most cases.

hmm.



Made perfect sense when I wrote it. {#Lol}

Actually from two points of view. A person can be polite and have manners as well as give respect. The other person can get (earn) respect.

I'm not sure I made sense here either. {#Doh}
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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 6:25am

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Politesse and manners are things you give.

Respect is something you earn.



i think manners are something you  can be taught, can learn and have. and respect is something you give - and according to the article below, yes, it is earned, but also is good manners to give to elders, etc. in most cases.

hmm.

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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 6:23am

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I remember having an issue with this when I was a child and discussing with my father why I didn't feel as though I should have to automatically respect someone older than me. I think that, wehn we reach the age of maturity, we understand the differnece between respect and defferance and simply being polite.
You're right, they are distinct.


{#Clap}  well said.

and aflan - really timely post. i am happy i read that. food for thought, certainly for me. hopefully for some more of us, too.

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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 6:17am

Politesse and manners are things you give.

Respect is something you earn.
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