kurtster wrote:

"Until then, we all have to wait."

Or we could—crazy thought, I know—believe the women who've come forward and spoken out. 

And hey, you waved away the judgment of rape/sexual assault against Trump. So I'm assuming that you'd do the same thing if it comes out that he raped kids. 

But yes, let's see what you say when they come out. That newly elected Democrat had her election results officially certified. So Mike Johnson has nothing to hide behind anymore. 

 kurtster wrote:

"Until then, we all have to wait."

Or we could—crazy thought, I know—believe the women who've come forward and spoken out. 

And hey, you waved away the judgment of rape/sexual assault against Trump. So I'm assuming that you'd do the same thing if it comes out that he raped kids. 

But yes, let's see what you say when they come out. That newly elected Democrat had her election results officially certified. So Mike Johnson has nothing to hide behind anymore. 

 kurtster wrote:
Not everyone desires or abides by the Führerprinzip.

 R_P wrote:

Well the calls for me to reply have been many from many different people.  I am supposed to jump through a separate set of hoops for each one ?   That is a lot of separate sets of hoops.

You get what you get.  

And it gets back to islander should be the team leader for everyone as he so much wants to be.  That way I only have one set to manage instead of many.

You people need to organize and pick your leader so we can move on.

 kcar wrote:

As many have famously said, I will not deal in hypotheticals.

Let's see the Epstein files first. Then I will decide. 

And yes, release them.

Until then, we all have to wait.

 kurtster wrote:
Excuses tend to be lies. People should jump through hoops just to reply to you? ðŸ™„

@Kurtster: No, I did not get a blank box when I hit "reply." As I posted, I was taken after hitting "reply" to the top of the thread. The first post I read was the latest one posted. 

A small inconvenience. 

Again: I think many of us are wondering whether you're ever going to lose faith in Trump and/or stop believing his claims. It's pretty obvious that he's slipping mentally and physically. "The emperor has no clothes" applies—thank God—only metaphorically to Trump, but to the Trump faithful he's doing a bang-up job. 

Well, some of the faithful. He's lost support of the farmers. Apparently a lot of young voters are disillusioned with him. I can't imagine Black voters for Trump are pleased with their choice, given his attacks on minorities, DEI and the rising unemployment levels hitting them especially hard. 

But again, you're pretty much the only Trump supporter here. So our curiosity about your views is partly a stand-in for questions about Trump's levels of support among his base. 

Our curiosity is also now filled with alarm: how blinkered/hypnotized/brainwashed our Trump's supporters? And in your case, Kurt: can't you see the amount of destruction he's inflicted on the country and is going to inflict? 

Not idle questions, because at your income level and dependence on medical insurance programs/Medicare/govt. assistance, you stand to feel a lot of pain soon. 

And no, you're not "taking one for the team." The cuts to the federal government/Medicare/Medicaid aren't going to make the country stronger. They're going to help the people making hundreds of millions a year—not you—get richer. 


So let's wrap this up. IIRC, you're not worried at all about what Trump is doing. You're not worried that he's senile, demented and unwilling/unable to obey the law. 

I'm willing to bet that if the release of the Epstein files shows that Trump was indeed a serial pedophile/rapist, you won't have a problem with that at all. My prediction is based on your unchanging support for Trump no matter what he does. 

Frankly, that's pretty fvcking frightening to me. The Nazis came to power on the backs of unwavering supporters like you. 

Have a nice evening. 

 R_P wrote:
Just excuses and nothing more.  It is however why I use the legacy website.  The text editor is one of the best ever made anywhere.  Mega kudos for what William did way back when. You can still copy the post text and paste it and get this ... (which I am doing on the new website) (Edit:  Old dogs can still learn new tricks.  You new dogs are just lazy and give up too easily, which explains a lot of why things are the way they are in the world these daze ...) islander wrote: Steely_D wrote:
You have no idea how hard it is to find carbon paper these days. Slowed me down but I got it done.
Again, how about the message? Trump is clearly senile and confused. Can you speak to the idea that he’s not confused just on its own merit
and not by attacking me or islander or whomever? That would be an
interesting discussion. Otherwise it’s not. Do you think he’s accurate and grounded in reality ?
The committee appreciates your attention to detail. They also like the way you dot your 'I's with little hearts. The floor is yielded to Kurtster for his opportunity to answer the question or deflect to some other arbitrary talking point. points will be awarded for originality (ha), and will be deducted for obfuscation and drifting from the topic and any mention of Hunter's laptop.
I'm having a hard time figuring out how to deal with all of the passive, aggressive behaviour being thrown at me. .
islander wrote:You're a troll, a gadfly. You have said that you aren't here for any engagement, you just 'like to see people's heads explode'. So why should we give you any respect? You aren't here for a genuine reason, why should we let you have the rules of decorum when you are after chaos and division?
....
Or if you want to be respected here, put forth something from a genuine position, don't be completely hypocritical, have your own message not that of the multitude of talking heads (yeah, I know you come to their position naturally all on you own... see 'genuine' above). islander wrote: I used 'We' as shorthand/colloquialism, much as you used "no one here". You frame yourself as the lone outsider willing to speak truth to power. But you don't speak truth, you blather in half truths, misinformation, conspiracies, and dishonest arguments that I'm (we're) pretty sure even you don't believe but you are happy to put forth because they get a reaction you desire. So tell me - what kind of person puts out an argument they don't even believe just to watch other people get upset? I'd call that person an asshole.
Steely_D wrote:Again, how about the message? Trump is clearly senile and confused.
Can you speak to the idea that he’s not confused just on its own merit and not by attacking me or islander or whomever? That would be an interesting discussion. Otherwise it’s not.
Do you think he’s accurate and grounded in reality when he speaks ex officio like this?
You and islander want my thoughts after all of that ? You both have thoroughly disqualified me before I start. Then you chastise me for calling islander an asshole but do not do the same to him when he calls me an asshole ? kcar wrote:So after wading through the back and forth about that Trump video clip, I have to ask: why won't you apply your discerning eye and respond to concerns about Trump's competence/fitness? Why not stop ducking the question? Can't you stop trying to make this about you and just comment on Trump's statements and his fitness? You don't have to agree with anyone or everyone. Just post your honest opinion.
But you're trying to make this about me. Now you want thoughts after calling me a loser not so long ago ? WTF is up with you people ? You beat me up and then say you need to hear what I have to say. And all over a 25 second video about Portland ? That is what you all are using as your claim for senility and confusion ? You all, the people who missed Biden's non compos mentis are trying to use that to justify your claim ? You all are just plain knucking futz. TDS is your addiction and your out of control hate seeks out anything that reinforces it, not even bothering to fact check anything anymore. You all have succumbed. I mention that the coin is a bridge too far for me and get beaten up for agreeing. JFC. At worst, I see and hear hyperbole. Nothing else. What I see and hear is the Energizer Bunny. Indefatigable, persistent and getting the job done. Getting things done that no else has been able to do. Howze he doing with Israel and Gaza ? Not a single word mentioned by any of you, other than an opaque reference hidden in some oblique meme.
Then the disinformation. Proclivities wrote:Joe Biden was castigated for a Chinese weather balloon floating over the US, but somehow it's fine to have the Qatari Air Force build an air base in Idaho. I guess that luxury jet was not really a "gift".
No, there is not and will be no Qatari Air Force base in Idaho. It is just going to be a couple of buildings and barracks, much the same as in place for Singapore for the same reasons. The Qatari facility was approved by Biden, btw. Fun fact. Did you know that our largest USAF Base, Al Udeid Air Base in the Middle East is in Qatar ? Our relationship with Qatar is extremely complex. Like everything else in the Middle East. A totally different culture than ours and to apply our cultural standards to theirs as a way of making any sense of anything just doesn't work and to think that it does is baffling. Remember, you all pursued me for my thoughts. Now you will all castigate me for them. It is what you people do. It makes me wonder why I waste time trying to explain things that none of you comprehend and worse believe that the basis and reasoning for my thoughts are thoroughly defective and invalid. So why do you keep asking? Again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results from the same actions.
You all trusted Biden and I trust Trump. He is not the second coming of Hitler, a Nazi or a Fascist as everyone here claims him to be. And nether am I, as everyone here also claims. Have a nice day. I do have more to add but not the time.

 kurtster wrote:
Only works for dinosaurs using legacy. For the regular site you get what kcar described.

 kcar wrote: 
So you hit the rely button and got this, right ?

 kurtster wrote: 

I guess that you are new around here.  

When you see that it is rather simple to deal with.  Copy the text in the thread post and paste it into the blank box and voila ...

You get this ...

 kurtster wrote: 
And then you can keep going and reply.

Why don't you try that and and actually reply directly to the actual points I made which are many.

You can even take small sections and do the same and get this ...
 kurtster wrote: 

@Kurtster: 

Sadly, when I hit the "reply" link to your last post I'm taken to the top of the thread instead of your post. I blame Trump...

"I'm having a hard time figuring out how to deal with all of the passive, aggressive behaviour being thrown at me."

Maybe people are actually trying to get you to state an opinion on Trump's fitness without your diverting discussion to you, you, YOU. That schtick should have been retired with Sarah Palin. 

Just a thought. 

Look, it's actually pretty simple. You're just about the only Trump fan here. I'm pretty sure most other RPers posting here are as shocked and angry at Trump's trampling of the law, his open criminal greed and his destruction of the US government to pay for his giant tax cut aimed to benefit his billionaire buddies. 

You think he's doing a fine job. 

However, I wonder—pretty sure others do too—what it would take for your faith in Trump to shatter.

*  A failed attempt to wipe out a free and fair election and illegally stay in power? Nope. 

* Multiple felony convictions? No

* A civil judgment of rape against Trump? Oh no, says Kurt, he only used his finger. 

* A massive cut to medical care in order to pay for the tax cut for the super-rich? No, you say. I'm willing to sacrifice my benefits for the good of the country (which, I'm sorry is impossible to believe after all your screaming about illegal immigrants stealing benefits from the likes of you). 

* A peace deal in Gaza that looks enormously like the one Biden hammered out, only to have Trump persuade Netanyahu to kill the deal so that Trump could later get credit? Kurt's memory suspiciously failed him here. Perhaps Biden and his admin weren't so incompetent after all. 

Trump to most of us posting here is a lying, criminal, cruel and greedy man. But he's also slipping mentally. 

Clearly, the Portland video clip doesn't trouble you. But the Portland video is just one instance in a galaxy of Trump's digressions, spoken hallucinations, lies, inventions and semi-random digressions. Frankly, I don't think he can talk intelligently at length about any subject, even when prepared. "They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats" should have been the end of his campaign.

"The weave" is not a sign of mental agility. It's a sign of declining mental ability. But not for you. 


So here, lemme ask you this: what are you going to say if the Epstein files get released and there is ample evidence that Trump used Epstein's arranged services with underage girls? What are you going to say if there's strong evidence (actually, more evidence) that Trump raped underage girls?

Are you going to stand by a pedophile? 

 islander wrote:

Nothing happened to change it.

 Red_Dragon wrote:
It's definitely not the best angle for him... which is why it's so perfect.   I heard Joe Biden took the picture.

 rgio wrote:

He's SUCH a little baby.

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Only Trump can find opportunity in the Barbra Streisand effect.   Any attention is good attention.

 islander wrote: 
I'm having a hard time figuring out how to deal with all of the passive, aggressive behaviour being thrown at me.

.
 islander wrote: 

 islander wrote: 
Steely_D wrote: 
You and islander want my thoughts after all of that  ?  You both have thoroughly disqualified me before I start.  Then you chastise me for calling islander an asshole but do not do the same to him when he calls me an asshole ?

 kcar wrote: 
But you're trying to make this about me.

Now you want thoughts after calling me a loser not so long ago ?

WTF is up with you people ?  You beat me up and then say you need to hear what I have to say.

And all over a 25 second video about Portland ?  That is what you all are using as your claim for senility and confusion ? You all, the people who missed Biden's non compos mentis are trying to use that to justify your claim ?  You all are just plain knucking futz.  TDS is your addiction and your out of control hate seeks out anything that reinforces it, not even bothering to fact check anything anymore.  You all have succumbed.

I mention that the coin is a bridge too far for me and get beaten up for agreeing. JFC.

At worst, I see and hear hyperbole.  Nothing else.

What I see and hear is the Energizer Bunny.  Indefatigable, persistent and getting the job done.  Getting things done that no else has been able to do.  

Howze he doing with Israel and Gaza ?  Not a single word mentioned by any of you, other than an opaque reference hidden in some oblique meme.
Then the disinformation.

 Proclivities wrote: 
No, there is not and will be no Qatari Air Force base in Idaho.  It is just going to be a couple of buildings and barracks, much the same as in place for Singapore for the same reasons.

The Qatari facility was approved by Biden, btw.  Fun fact.  Did you know that our largest USAF Base, Al Udeid Air Base in the Middle East is in Qatar ?

Our relationship with Qatar is extremely complex.  Like everything else in the Middle East.  A totally different culture than ours and to apply our cultural standards to theirs as a way of making any sense of anything just doesn't work and to think that it does is baffling.

Remember, you all pursued me for my thoughts.  Now you will all castigate me for them.  It is what you people do.  It makes me wonder why I waste time trying to explain things that none of you comprehend and worse believe that the basis and reasoning for my thoughts are thoroughly defective and invalid.  So why do you keep asking?

Again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results from the same actions.
You all trusted Biden and I trust Trump.  He is not the second coming of Hitler, a Nazi or a Fascist as everyone here claims him to be.  And nether am I, as everyone here also claims.

Have a nice day.  I do have more to add but not the time.

 Steely_D wrote:
Fun fact: a gathering of crickets is called an orchestra.  You should have a full one by now.