Reminds me quite a bit of Toad the Wet Sprocket. I like it. Very calming and relaxing. I give it a 6. I'd give it more, but it's just too darn long.

Such a boring song. Wow, just wow.

miahfost wrote: That sums up most of the song comments!

May this song never leave R.P. Still my favorite.

could this be more whiney?

BikeCoachDave wrote:

the single best song on R.P. Haunting.

This song has always gotten to me since the first time I heard it. I love it. To each his (or in my case, her) own. Godlike to me.

lostindetroit wrote: Interesting! Does this song really exemplify "shoegazer" genre? If so, I learned something. I can also understand how someone who *enjoys* feeling melancholy could enjoy this selection. It ain't me, babe.

Pick one: a) This song rocks! b) This song sucks! Argue endlessly.

After reading the comments posted before me, I feel somewhat sheepish in wanting to say nothing more than I like this song. OK, maybe one more thing. Someone referenced this as "shoegazer" type music, with no theatre. While I can agree to a point, it's irrelevant to how a song hits your heart. The melancholy doesn't find it's way to you with jazz hands, it creeps into you. Alright, I'm done.

If the song name at top is the one I am listening to--which is not always the case--I have to vote against the monotony and repetetiveness of it . . . relieved only by the shift from a whiny adult male vocal into an unlovely falsetto. I think I am commenting on the right song, though, because I recall liking the Solas selection that apparently preceded. If someone else enjoys this, good!

nuggler wrote: Right. Now I'm bugging you. Because I'M the one who started verbally assaulting people when they didn't like the music I did...oh wait - that was you. But I suppose if you're finally without words, I've nothing more to say either.

ploafmaster wrote: Sure...whatever... Now stop bugging me...

nuggler wrote: Ah yes, I forgot - your wisdom is like pearls, and I'm a swine. Sing with me now (in a mind-jarring 13/8 time signature)! Pretense pretense pretense pretense!

ploafmaster wrote: pearls before swine

nuggler wrote: See, nugget, everything you've just described is no less subjective than Maybe it's more descriptive, and I credit you for your effort, it was genuinely fun to read. But the problem is, you are justifying your completely subjective point with a completely subjective argument, based on your opinions of the particular bands you mentioned. And not all of your descriptions are realistic. You cannot claim, rationally, that a player who appears to perform with heart, energy, and style is really performing with more heart, energy, and style than somebody who simply sits in a chair and strums some chords. What you see is not neccessarily what you get. If you're claiming greatness or lack thereof based on the stage effect or iconism of an artist, well, go ahead and enjoy that, but don't call it "musical taste" or "music appreciation" or "musical knowledge" or anything else music related. There's music, there's theater, there's musical theater. We only get one of those here on RP, Music. So to knock or not based on something other than that makes little sense. Even if I discount an entire genre, that's still a musical element. Not that I'm claiming you need reasons or motives as such to be allowed to comment. I'm trying to contrast your pretense with your comments. You have not yet provided a rational defense of your right, ability and insight into negative comments over other people's right, ability and insight. I just think it would be fair if you could explain to everybody why you can launch into strange psychobabbelous diatribes against those who don't like your music, yet you are supposed to be free to make an equally irrational comment about not liking a song/group/whatever.

ploafmaster wrote: OK, I'm talking about the theatrical component in music here. Nothing is more important. A clear dividing line separates musicians capable of theatre & those capable of simply playing. It is the division between genius & mediocrity. On one side we have pasty, uninterested, uninspiring dirty-jean bands we see on Leno, who totally lack theatre in their music & performance. On the other side are the bands we all remember…. Ozzy was more than John Michael Osbourne, when he performed…he was Ozzy. Cobain & the Clash, their music was more than a flashy, outward image to be flaunted on stage like a bad heavy metal act. The Clash's music was a code of ethic to live by, an ideology or even a religion, in the sense that punk rock was Joe's theatre of life. Theatre is the elevation of the life impulse into a sphere of primal energies. Vitality is heightened. The senses expand. Immersed in "theatre" you don't stand on stage and stare at your shoes. You stand on stage like a Shakespearean actor! You become the Ego of your music. If your music has no ego, keep it on the shelf where it belongs and spare us the agony of having to hear it. Theatre is Jimi Hendrix, when you are without fear on stage. Theatre is Bob Marley when energy reaches beyond itself into the archetypal. Theatre is vintage Metallica, where good and evil collide. Theatre is Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden--- even Madonna, the Beatles, the Stones. Theatre does not discriminate. Theatre is being able to capture your story, your life, your destiny from a higher realm and being able to translate it into music. Those are the melodies worth hearing. Now, puke on that, because "...BILL HIMSELF PROVIDED (pukeman) FOR OUR USE ON THESE BOARDS..." Time to *grow up*, sunshine....

nuggler wrote: Okay, so unless English isn't your first language, and you simply don't grasp many common idiomatic expressions (which if that's the case, fine, no harm done intentionally), please explain, and I mean REALLY explain, the difference between calling one song "a lame attempt" or "lacking life" and using the emoticon that BILL HIMSELF PROVIDED FOR OUR USE ON THESE BOARDS. And personal prejudices? Yes, that's what these are...personal prejudices towards sounds we don't like. That's what you just regurgitated when you said this song had no life in it. What are your reason for not like this? And why are they more valid than somebody saying that they can't stand reggae or any other music that you enjoy? Real explanations, man, I'm willing to entertain those. Come on, out with 'em. And none of this, "not until you explain yourself first" stuff. I'm calling you out here.

ploafmaster wrote: A personal observation on my part...no disrespectful puking & sucking & regurgitating of my own personal prejudices all over someone's attempt, albeit a lame attempt.....

It do take a while to reach the end, though, don't it?

does it ever end? MAKE IT STOP!

nuggler wrote: Oh, hey, cool! Once again, you get to make a negative comment about a song despite your attacks on other people who do the same! Awesome!

somewhat devoid of *life*....

Love, love, love this song! Can't explain it, luckily, I don't have to. It's just one of those songs that gets to me.

i'm almost impressed at how this one just keeps going...

Interminable!

philm wrote: Exactly, any chance this is the lead singer? I'd most certainly believe it. ED. Most definately is the guy from Red House Painters.

Shimmer wrote: Does sound like an outtake or B-side an engineer should've accidentally erased. Good intentions abound, but this is definitely an aural Quaalude. Course, depending on your perspective, that may not be all bad.

I'm losing consciousness....can't keep eyes open....someone turn it off...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

great song

GWB's re-election theme song?

Great Album!!

This song is like getting a root canal in slow motion.

Nice song. For me, this is a perfect example of why I listen to RP. A few times a day I'll be introduced to a band or an artist that I've never heard of and they sound great. Keep it up RP!

That chorus soars. A 10 from me. As for sounding whiny... you guys are pretty big balls of whine yourself

I like it I think I'll kill myself now

great song, fits my mood

song kill me

Isn't this from "The Worst of Neil Young"?

This song is absolutely terrible.

chasech5 wrote:4 shur! "Would you like some cheese with that voice?" ... =; His voice was so annoying, I didn't care what he was singing. =;

His voice sort of annoys me but this song sums up my feelings pretty well right now.

Red House Painters look out!

8)

Possibly the most WHINY song ever recorded. Every phrase blends into the next, except you get the feeling that you're supposed to understand and follow along. Hard to believe that I gave this its first "1." But then, it only had 62 votes at the time. Guess it doesn't move too many people either way...but isn't that the worst sign of all?

Great song from a great disc. Great guitars and melodies.

I'm getting SON VOLT out of this...

Take some voice lessons.

Love the guitars, the slow beat, and the awesome harmonies...just a great overall song that puts me in a more relaxed, thoughtful mood.

Toad-lite. Decent tune.

Allman Bros. by way of Pat Metheny.

madtowner11 wrote: Man, you sure are funny! I guess making jokes about the title is the only way to pass the time during this BORING song.

He's definitely got a good voice. I saw him open for a band as a solo act at Slim's in San Fran....his set was a bit rocky but his voice was still great.

Jam.

Nice song title. Maybe Kerry will sing it during the recount.

This song has such a great vibe. Yes, goes along a it too long, but it's a great cut...like a nice long walk.

sun kil ME -- this is STILL on? cripes...i feel like i've been listening to this for six hours now...

Yes, this is Mark Kozelek, the lead singer of the Red House Painters. Hey, I recommend the Ghosts of the Great Highway to anyone that likes this song or any of Red House Painters stuff!

Is this the lead singer from Red House Painters? Sounds JUST like him.

somone kill Sun Kil Moon!!!!!

llazare wrote: Thanks!! Soooooooooo Good!! Cheers to Mr Kozelek's return

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