Neil Young — After The Garden
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Won't need no shadow man
Runnin' the government
Won't need no stinkin' war
Won't need no haircut
Won't need no shoeshine
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
What will people do
After the garden is gone?
What will people say
After the garden?
Won't need no strong man
Walkin' through the night
To live a weak man's day
Won't need no purple haze
Won't need no sunshine
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
Where will people go
After the garden is gone?
What will people know
After the garden?
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
Runnin' the government
Won't need no stinkin' war
Won't need no haircut
Won't need no shoeshine
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
What will people do
After the garden is gone?
What will people say
After the garden?
Won't need no strong man
Walkin' through the night
To live a weak man's day
Won't need no purple haze
Won't need no sunshine
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
Where will people go
After the garden is gone?
What will people know
After the garden?
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
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Never heard this before but I knowed who it was when I heard the guitar 
Sloggydog wrote:
Props to the millions who showed up yesterday in the U.S., Canada, and around the world to protest the big orange buffoon.
Just remember there are dickheads everywhere. Its nigh on impossible to escape them. Moving just means you have to learn to identify them all over again in their new context so you can avoid them. Essentially the grass is greenest where you look after it the best.
Props to the millions who showed up yesterday in the U.S., Canada, and around the world to protest the big orange buffoon.
Apparently, Neil Young went to "Don McLean" school of shoddy symbolism. Or was it the other way round? I don't care.
Sloggydog wrote:
Just remember there are dickheads everywhere. Its nigh on impossible to escape them. Moving just means you have to learn to identify them all over again in their new context so you can avoid them. Essentially the grass is greenest where you look after it the best.
Yes, but having moved to the UK 15 years ago i'm pretty confident the dick-head quotient is significantly lower here. Just an observation.
Just remember there are dickheads everywhere. Its nigh on impossible to escape them. Moving just means you have to learn to identify them all over again in their new context so you can avoid them. Essentially the grass is greenest where you look after it the best.
Yes, but having moved to the UK 15 years ago i'm pretty confident the dick-head quotient is significantly lower here. Just an observation.
Marley wrote:
OMG - what is wrong with people these days? This is not funny at all. Please, leave RP and go watch some Faux News or something...sheesh.... and people wonder why I want to move to England.
You want to move to England because they are funnier over there?
OMG - what is wrong with people these days? This is not funny at all. Please, leave RP and go watch some Faux News or something...sheesh.... and people wonder why I want to move to England.
You want to move to England because they are funnier over there?
dolfan wrote:
I'm not sure: did I write this or you, Marley? I've been working on getting my family and me out of here, too. I don't wonder why you want out; I get it. And Neil Young is simply brilliant.
Just remember there are dickheads everywhere. Its nigh on impossible to escape them. Moving just means you have to learn to identify them all over again in their new context so you can avoid them. Essentially the grass is greenest where you look after it the best.
I'm not sure: did I write this or you, Marley? I've been working on getting my family and me out of here, too. I don't wonder why you want out; I get it. And Neil Young is simply brilliant.
Just remember there are dickheads everywhere. Its nigh on impossible to escape them. Moving just means you have to learn to identify them all over again in their new context so you can avoid them. Essentially the grass is greenest where you look after it the best.
Marley wrote:
OMG - what is wrong with people these days? This is not funny at all. Please, leave RP and go watch some Faux News or something...sheesh.... and people wonder why I want to move to England.
I'm not sure: did I write this or you, Marley? I've been working on getting my family and me out of here, too. I don't wonder why you want out; I get it. And Neil Young is simply brilliant.
OMG - what is wrong with people these days? This is not funny at all. Please, leave RP and go watch some Faux News or something...sheesh.... and people wonder why I want to move to England.
I'm not sure: did I write this or you, Marley? I've been working on getting my family and me out of here, too. I don't wonder why you want out; I get it. And Neil Young is simply brilliant.
Neil=Truth. Listen up to a true hero.
There needs to be more protest music and less bubble gum hip hop that is distracting youth from the future they are doomed to inherit.
Keep it up Neil!
Keep it up Neil!
Not one of Neil's better efforts
Marley wrote:
OMG - what is wrong with people these days? This is not funny at all. Please, leave RP and go watch some Faux News or something...sheesh.... and people wonder why I want to move to England.
yes, Sharia is a far better system....
OMG - what is wrong with people these days? This is not funny at all. Please, leave RP and go watch some Faux News or something...sheesh.... and people wonder why I want to move to England.
yes, Sharia is a far better system....
HazzeSwede wrote:
Wer hub es an?
Hölderlin
Living with war should be an easy task, since mankind has, since the begining !
Wer hub es an?
Hölderlin
Living with war should be an easy task, since mankind has, since the begining !
After the garden is gone, the majority of people will not realize just why the garden is gone.
making the right decisions is what the next phase of evolution will look like ~ ask what the right decisions are
"How could it come to this" - great segue Bill to Is It Like Today.
Do you guys debating how much lead or depleted uranium traveling at this or that velocity it will take to remove Cheney or Neil or Mikey Moore or (__________ <<— your least favorite hollywood lefty or FoxNews talking head or uber-capitalist here) from the metaphorical garden REALLY THINK... I mean seriously now ... do you REALLY THINK that we really aren't re-enacting EASTER F*CKING ISLAND on a planetary scale, even as we speak? Look up https://www.greatchange.org/footnotes-overshoot-st_matthew_island.html to see what's coming soon to a Garden on a big screen near you.
Tell 'em Neil:
Won't need no shadow man
Runnin' the government
Won't need no stinkin' WAR
Won't need no haircut
Won't need no shoe shine
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
What will people do?
After the garden is gone
What will people say?
After the garden
Do you guys debating how much lead or depleted uranium traveling at this or that velocity it will take to remove Cheney or Neil or Mikey Moore or (__________ <<— your least favorite hollywood lefty or FoxNews talking head or uber-capitalist here) from the metaphorical garden REALLY THINK... I mean seriously now ... do you REALLY THINK that we really aren't re-enacting EASTER F*CKING ISLAND on a planetary scale, even as we speak? Look up https://www.greatchange.org/footnotes-overshoot-st_matthew_island.html to see what's coming soon to a Garden on a big screen near you.
Tell 'em Neil:
Won't need no shadow man
Runnin' the government
Won't need no stinkin' WAR
Won't need no haircut
Won't need no shoe shine
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
After the garden is gone
What will people do?
After the garden is gone
What will people say?
After the garden
sirdroseph wrote:
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Damn! People really do listen to lyrics. Thanks for presenting more case in points to why I don't pay any attention to lyrics unless they seep in by accident! This is music after all, not social commentary or poetry, music, notes played with instruments while sung along to. This song is ok, don't have a clue or even care what it is about. Meh, 6.
...Damn! People really do listen to lyrics. Thanks for presenting more case in points to why I don't pay any attention to lyrics unless they seep in by accident! This is music after all, not social commentary or poetry, music, notes played with instruments while sung along to. This song is ok, don't have a clue or even care what it is about. Meh, 6.
No more crying-man Neil Young. Every time I hear him, I'm turning off Screamer Radio. And this creepy voice...
shutter wrote:
Nahh, a .40 135gr JHP at 1450 fps to Neil and, oh, say , Michael Moore's vacant cranial areas would be much more satisfyingly technicolor.
OMG - what is wrong with people these days? This is not funny at all. Please, leave RP and go watch some Faux News or something...sheesh.... and people wonder why I want to move to England.
Nahh, a .40 135gr JHP at 1450 fps to Neil and, oh, say , Michael Moore's vacant cranial areas would be much more satisfyingly technicolor.
OMG - what is wrong with people these days? This is not funny at all. Please, leave RP and go watch some Faux News or something...sheesh.... and people wonder why I want to move to England.
ugh, my throbbing headache just got worse.
2->1
2->1
WILD THING!
YOU MAKE MY HEART SING!
YOU MAKE MY HEART SING!
On_The_Beach wrote:
Man, that was really disturbing, yet darkly humorous. God Bless America.
Yes indeed, God HAS Blessed America! We ARE the Chosen People! We ARE the rulers of the world! We ARE! Yes! WE ARE!
Thank you God, you're a friend in deed! now we're in need, so empower us hence with all speed; Feed our Need as steel shod hooves of our Nation's Steed crushes all enemies' deeds. Let them bleed, indeed; Now you Foreigner's creed, Take Heed!
Man, that was really disturbing, yet darkly humorous. God Bless America.
Yes indeed, God HAS Blessed America! We ARE the Chosen People! We ARE the rulers of the world! We ARE! Yes! WE ARE!
Thank you God, you're a friend in deed! now we're in need, so empower us hence with all speed; Feed our Need as steel shod hooves of our Nation's Steed crushes all enemies' deeds. Let them bleed, indeed; Now you Foreigner's creed, Take Heed!
shutter wrote:
Well if anything happens to Neil and Michael, we'll know where to look first. Sheesh!
Nahh, a .40 135gr JHP at 1450 fps to Neil and, oh, say , Michael Moore's vacant cranial areas would be much more satisfyingly technicolor.
Well if anything happens to Neil and Michael, we'll know where to look first. Sheesh!
Misterfixit wrote:
Nine Ounces? Actually a single 40 grain hollow point fired from a High Standard Arms Company .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol with the factory built-in sound suppressor, as issued to the US Army, et. al. will suffice. See, the muzzle velocity is slow enough so that the bullet and fragments do not exit (well, unless you line up the ears) and those nasty fragments just spin around inside the skull like a sort of Waring Blender in reverse. Works every time, don't ya know.
Nahh, a .40 135gr JHP at 1450 fps to Neil and, oh, say , Michael Moore's vacant cranial areas would be much more satisfyingly technicolor.
Nine Ounces? Actually a single 40 grain hollow point fired from a High Standard Arms Company .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol with the factory built-in sound suppressor, as issued to the US Army, et. al. will suffice. See, the muzzle velocity is slow enough so that the bullet and fragments do not exit (well, unless you line up the ears) and those nasty fragments just spin around inside the skull like a sort of Waring Blender in reverse. Works every time, don't ya know.
Nahh, a .40 135gr JHP at 1450 fps to Neil and, oh, say , Michael Moore's vacant cranial areas would be much more satisfyingly technicolor.
The garden is already dried up and gone. Big business sucked it dry. (song is only a 6— but overall Neil is 10)
Misterfixit wrote:
Man, that was really disturbing, yet darkly humorous. God Bless America.
Nine Ounces? Actually a single 40 grain hollow point fired from a High Standard Arms Company .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol with the factory built-in sound suppressor, as issued to the US Army, et. al. will suffice. See, the muzzle velocity is slow enough so that the bullet and fragments do not exit (well, unless you line up the ears) and those nasty fragments just spin around inside the skull like a sort of Waring Blender in reverse. Works every time, don't ya know.
Man, that was really disturbing, yet darkly humorous. God Bless America.
Was reading a review of the PBS American Masters Series Neil Young episode which debuts this week I think. Supposed to be really, really good.
saltysanford wrote:
Nine Ounces? Actually a single 40 grain hollow point fired from a High Standard Arms Company .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol with the factory built-in sound suppressor, as issued to the US Army, et. al. will suffice. See, the muzzle velocity is slow enough so that the bullet and fragments do not exit (well, unless you line up the ears) and those nasty fragments just spin around inside the skull like a sort of Waring Blender in reverse. Works every time, don't ya know.
Neil being Neil. He is right in the sentiment, but the song is a bit rough. Halliburton execs. and Dick Cheney both deserve nine ounces of lead in the brain pan.
Nine Ounces? Actually a single 40 grain hollow point fired from a High Standard Arms Company .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol with the factory built-in sound suppressor, as issued to the US Army, et. al. will suffice. See, the muzzle velocity is slow enough so that the bullet and fragments do not exit (well, unless you line up the ears) and those nasty fragments just spin around inside the skull like a sort of Waring Blender in reverse. Works every time, don't ya know.
Hey Bill - You playing Life During Wartime next? 
Everybody Knows This is Nowhere Neil and I know you have a Heart of Gold, so Tell Me Why you're not singing about that Cinnamon Girl.
sass wrote:
Amen...
Bill should play this one after "Woodstock" to catch all of Neil's irony....
Amen...
Neil being Neil. He is right in the sentiment, but the song is a bit rough. Halliburton execs. and Dick Cheney both deserve nine ounces of lead in the brain pan.
Papernapkin wrote:
Yep... just like everything else I've heard so far from this release.
I like Neil, but this song is a clunker.
Yep... just like everything else I've heard so far from this release.
I like Neil, but this song is a clunker.
felam wrote:
I try to like Neil, I really do I swear. But all of his songs are whiny and just darn annoying. Sorry.
Couldn't have said it better. Although I tried on the boards of some of his other songs.
Should be played with D Byrne's "Nothing But Flowers"!
Hey Neil, "keep on rockin' in the free world"!
This song is about more than just the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan. They are being conducted (and Canucks are involved up to our necks) for the benefit of greedheads like Cheney and his Haliburton cronies to line their own pockets - for this young Canadians and Americans are laying down their lives?
The pillaging of the Middle East for oil is destroying our ecology, and Canada's contributing to greenhouse gases in a major way with development of the Athabaska Tar Sands. Most of the production from this is piped straight south to feed the insatiable American demand for SUVs, etc.
What are we going to do after the greedheads have had their way; "after the Garden is gone"?
Bill should play this one after "Woodstock" to catch all of Neil's irony....
Brilliant political song by a genius...
smehan55 wrote:
Freedom of speech ... use it or lose it!
Freedom of whine?
xkolibuul wrote:
No, opportunistic is Halliburton screwing over our own soldiers who put their lives on the line every day. Go on, wave that flag and push the red meat, war profiteers. See you in Hell.
the stupidity is strong with this one...
I try to like Neil, I really do I swear. But all of his songs are whiny and just darn annoying. Sorry.
What's the frequency Kenneth?
Freedom of speech ... use it or lose it!
Screechy political songs, yech.
I'm staying outta this one, but Neil rocks and thinks, and has the nerve to say out loud what he (and lots of others think too). That's all good in my book.
Guess I didn't stay out after all...
So today I learned... relearned (I have short-term memory problems; my parents tried to warn me about smoking that stuff, but I wouldn't be swayed... diswayed?) anyway... I learned that Neil Young is Canadian. I love Canada. I love Neil Young. I love music... so I listen to RP... and I'm so grateful. It would be nice if everyone would sweep their porches and clean their backyards, like someone else pointed out. I thought that was a good suggestion... and try not to worry so much -
Elle Littela (Emily's older sister)
so back to how terrible this song is...
No, opportunistic is Halliburton screwing over our own soldiers who put their lives on the line every day. Go on, wave that flag and push the red meat, war profiteers. See you in Hell.
I for one am damn glad that the rest of the world cares enough about our mutual future that they raise their voices to say what they think about American policy. I am an American whose opinions and concerns don't stop at the borders of the U.S. And I doubt yours do either. If there's one thing I hate its a hypocrite.
eastcoast wrote:
So then Neil is more concerned for the American soldier than the Canadian soldier, I appreciate the support. thanks Neil. I didn't hear Neil mention Canadian politics, I guess he just needed good record sales in the U.S. Very opportunistic.
Freedom of speech goes both ways, doesn't it. Sounds like everyone here is entitled to that under our constitution. How does apartheid fit into all this or is that just your trigger word. If I don't care for someone opinion then I can either ignore or comment about it...as you say free speech. It is quite a paradox. Unfortunately some people respond more defensively than others instead of just accepting there opinion as just that, an opinion.
evermovingtarget wrote:
Hmmm, I thought Americans was so proud about having a country supporting free speech and the ability to have independent meanings. Does that only apply to American citizens? Are you saying that you want to divide the world along those lines (or any lines)? How is that different from racism? What's next? Reintroduction of an apartheid regime as in the 60's? Any one has a right to an opinion. Especially true when the actions of your current president has such an impact on the entire planet and in particular a massive impact on the people of Iraq. You think US is affected? Seen what's happening around the world as a direct result of US politics?
Oh, and what's up with the "been sucking money from US citizens" thing? He's been earning an honest buck following US laws. What's wrong with that? Oh yeah, US for Americans right?
So then Neil is more concerned for the American soldier than the Canadian soldier, I appreciate the support. thanks Neil. I didn't hear Neil mention Canadian politics, I guess he just needed good record sales in the U.S. Very opportunistic.
ThePoose wrote:
Kindly do your homework:
Canada disclosed that there have been Canadian military liaison personnel "embedded in American and coalition forces since the beginning of the conflict."<32> In addition, an undisclosed number of JTF2 (Joint Task Force II, or commandos) operators were deployed to Iraq temporarily, working closely with U.S. and British special forces to carry out the rescue of the Christian Peacemaker Hostages.<33> The Royal Canadian Mounted Police and Canadian Security Intelligence Service were also involved in that operation.<34>
Here's hoping that Neil and others like him, no matter what their country of origin or current citizenship, continue to voice their objections to US foreign policy and "the war on terror" that America was lured into, vis-à-vis mass brain washing and blatant lies. The Iraq and Afghanistan misadventures have turned into fiascos that all but the incurably brainwashed are more than well aware of ...the emperor has no clothes
impeach the bstrd!
Your Canadian Friend
and oh ya, "keep on rock'n in the free world!" 
eastcoast wrote:
How many troops does Canada have in Iraq?
That would be none.
Kindly do your homework:
Canada disclosed that there have been Canadian military liaison personnel "embedded in American and coalition forces since the beginning of the conflict."<32> In addition, an undisclosed number of JTF2 (Joint Task Force II, or commandos) operators were deployed to Iraq temporarily, working closely with U.S. and British special forces to carry out the rescue of the Christian Peacemaker Hostages.<33> The Royal Canadian Mounted Police and Canadian Security Intelligence Service were also involved in that operation.<34>
shutter wrote:
Hey Neil, you wanna complain, then apply for citizenship. Don't wanna be a citizen here, then leave. Easy enough.
Hmmm, I thought Americans was so proud about having a country supporting free speech and the ability to have independent meanings. Does that only apply to American citizens? Are you saying that you want to divide the world along those lines (or any lines)? How is that different from racism? What's next? Reintroduction of an apartheid regime as in the 60's? Any one has a right to an opinion. Especially true when the actions of your current president has such an impact on the entire planet and in particular a massive impact on the people of Iraq. You think US is affected? Seen what's happening around the world as a direct result of US politics?
Oh, and what's up with the "been sucking money from US citizens" thing? He's been earning an honest buck following US laws. What's wrong with that? Oh yeah, US for Americans right?
eastcoast wrote:
How many troops does Canada have in Iraq?
That would be none.
Smart, those Canadians.
volnomad wrote:
This song should be blared from loudspeakers outside the White House 24 hours a day.
I AGREE!
YAWN
This song should be blared from loudspeakers outside the White House 24 hours a day.
eastcoast wrote:
I am sick and tired of non citizens of the USA preaching to me about crap they can't even fix in their own country.
Say what? So anyone that's not an American citizen has to agree with what George Bush does?! Yah, that makes perfect sense!
We should all stand idly by while a brain-dead monkey starts wars for no other reason than to bolster his own shaky ego. Are you happy and proud that 1000s of innocent American kids (aka "troops") have been slaughtered or maimed in Iraq just because George Bush is a moron? Go ahead George, send another 20,000 troops to Iraq to get killed; what do you care? Might as well invade Iran and North Korea while you're at it. And apparently I don't have the right to voice my disapproval, because I'm not an American citizen.
You can't tell me any intelligent person actually still supports this moron or his war.
eastcoast wrote:
How many troops does Canada have in Iraq?
That would be none.
your said that
"I am sick and tired of non citizens of the USA preaching to me about crap they can't even fix in their own country."
So seems like canada fixed it in their case didn't they?
Rightwingers and Libertarians, clearcutters, sprawl developers and selfish property rights scum; listen to Neil! What are you (and your children) gonna do after the garden is gone? Hang your head in shame.
Well here we are, six months and one election later. Our ostrich-in-chief still has his head buried in bloody Middle East sand, and Neil Young's screed is just as relevant.
Thanks for not forgetting this one, Bill.
Bob Loblah
nuggler wrote:
I thought it was an honest QUESTION....considering your spluttering flag-waving & your isolationist preachings. Misguided patriotism & nationalism is death to innocent civilians, women & children, as we speak, whether you support the war or not & these afflictions I tend to associate with redneck locked-down braindead thinking. Your blurb happens to reek of both even though you can't see it which is why I ASKED....Dig ? Mr.Young has as much right as any to speak out against current US foreign policy ie. "bomb them back into the stoneage esp. if they have brown skin !!!", since what has taken place in Afghanistan, Iraq & Palestine will destabalize the global socio-political condition probably for the next century or two. Shit man, try not to be so unconscious of your own thought process....
eastcoast wrote:
Oh redneck...huh, well thats mature. I'm glad when it comes to debating a subject, you advance to name calling. It really supports your cause. And if being American and being able to voice my opinion makes you a redneck so be it. If you read my blurb maybe you might realize I am on your side of the argument about the war. Its unfortunate that people like you who have no intelligence for debate consider name calling fair play. I wouldn't stoop to your level in a debate, I need a more intellectual conversation. Why don't you reread this blurb and see what my point is and if you still can't figure it out then the war opposition has far greater problems.
I thought it was an honest QUESTION....considering your spluttering flag-waving & your isolationist preachings. Misguided patriotism & nationalism is death to innocent civilians, women & children, as we speak, whether you support the war or not & these afflictions I tend to associate with redneck locked-down braindead thinking. Your blurb happens to reek of both even though you can't see it which is why I ASKED....Dig ? Mr.Young has as much right as any to speak out against current US foreign policy ie. "bomb them back into the stoneage esp. if they have brown skin !!!", since what has taken place in Afghanistan, Iraq & Palestine will destabalize the global socio-political condition probably for the next century or two. Shit man, try not to be so unconscious of your own thought process....
nuggler wrote:
Listen pal, what the current warloving regime has done to destabilize the Middle East will be impacting global conditions for decades yet & to what end? All for Global control of the oil fields & if you have a problem with that statement go read the Neocon drafted PNAC. You redneck, by the way...?
Hey nuggler, what flavor kool-aid you been drinking?
Oh redneck...huh, well thats mature. I'm glad when it comes to debating a subject, you advance to name calling. It really supports your cause. And if being American and being able to voice my opinion makes you a redneck so be it. If you read my blurb maybe you might realize I am on your side of the argument about the war. Its unfortunate that people like you who have no intelligence for debate consider name calling fair play. I wouldn't stoop to your level in a debate, I need a more intellectual conversation. Why don't you reread this blurb and see what my point is and if you still can't figure it out then the war opposition has far greater problems.
nuggler wrote:
Listen pal, what the current warloving regime has done to destabilize the Middle East will be impacting global conditions for decades yet & to what end? All for Global control of the oil fields & if you have a problem with that statement go read the Neocon drafted PNAC. You redneck, by the way...?
orpheus wrote:
as an american, I want to assure the rest of the world that at least 70% of us (and growing) disagree with the current admin's thinking, are extremely embarassed to have this buffoon as our "president" and are trying our best to get the abomination impeached 
please feel free to take your embarrassed behind back to Canuckia with Neil Young. Oh wait, he's been sucking money from U.S. citizens like you while living here for decades. Yeah, I can see why complaining about the U.S would make more sense than moving back to the Great White North whence he came and where he is a citizen rather than a green card holder here. Hey Neil, you wanna complain, then apply for citizenship. Don't wanna be a citizen here, then leave. Easy enough.
eastcoast wrote:
Hey Lets vote Neil for president....oh yeah thats right...we can't...he's Canadian. That's the freakin' point!!!!! I don't want our soldiers over there either but I voice my opinion freely under the flag of my country, the USA, voting who I want or who I don't want unlike Neil who lives in the USA, living comfortably but loyal to the Canadian flag who can't vote because he is not a citizen. I will say this a million times over and over, I am sick and tired of non citizens of the USA preaching to me about crap they can't even fix in their own country. Clean up your house before you clean up mine. Everyone has an opinion but the hypocrasy is annoying. I for one can not support Neil for this reason whether I agree with him or not. Besides a whole album dedicated to one concept...I hope he got it all off his chest.
Listen pal, what the current warloving regime has done to destabilize the Middle East will be impacting global conditions for decades yet & to what end? All for Global control of the oil fields & if you have a problem with that statement go read the Neocon drafted PNAC. You redneck, by the way...?
eastcoast wrote:
...a whole album dedicated to one concept...I hope he got it all off his chest.
Agreed. More dogs barking at the parade. The rest of the NY catalog is worthy of collecting and listening but this has a band wagon, rush-to-market feel to it. And then Bill had the good sense tonight to follow this up with a 4-song dog set. Excellent.
How many troops does Canada have in Iraq?
That would be none.
eastcoast wrote:
I am sick and tired of non citizens of the USA preaching to me about crap they can't even fix in their own country. Clean up your house before you clean up mine.
How many troops does Canada have in Iraq?
Hey Lets vote Neil for president....oh yeah thats right...we can't...he's Canadian. That's the freakin' point!!!!! I don't want our soldiers over there either but I voice my opinion freely under the flag of my country, the USA, voting who I want or who I don't want unlike Neil who lives in the USA, living comfortably but loyal to the Canadian flag who can't vote because he is not a citizen. I will say this a million times over and over, I am sick and tired of non citizens of the USA preaching to me about crap they can't even fix in their own country. Clean up your house before you clean up mine. Everyone has an opinion but the hypocrasy is annoying. I for one can not support Neil for this reason whether I agree with him or not. Besides a whole album dedicated to one concept...I hope he got it all off his chest.
orpheus wrote:
as an american, I want to assure the rest of the world that at least 70% of us (and growing) disagree with the current admin's thinking, are extremely embarassed to have this buffoon as our "president" and are trying our best to get the abomination impeached
as an american, I want to assure the rest of the world that at least 70% of us (and growing) disagree with the current admin's thinking, are extremely embarassed to have this buffoon as our "president" and are trying our best to get the abomination impeached
Kick-Ass...!!!!
Seeing how this thread turned political, allow me to throw in my 2 cts.
Anyone in America who's still buying the Bush's speech can only be doing so because either (1) they own stock in the weapon industry - why do you think he's got the backing of ivy league schools? Look at where their money comes from - or (2) they are so busy/lazy/uninterested to go seek alternative info.
Since you're part of the RP listener base, I'll assume you're a progressionist at heart. Now, I have little hope that the U.S. citizen can possibly have any control over what the current administration is doing. However, complacence with it can only bring trouble to you (in much the same way the Palestinians/Lebaneses who voted for Hamas/Hezbollah are paying the price for exercing their democratic rights). If you think Iraq was the end of it, you're deeply mistaken; That was just a piece in the big puzzle. Inform yourself about what's happening, spread the word and make some noise to show you're not condoning the atrocities perpetrated in your name. Here are some recommended readings:
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Jews for Justice in the Middle East(click here)
The spirit of resistance(click here)
tro_73 wrote:
As somebody said here,you just have to see around for realize what's going on and you don't need to have personal conversations with YOUR president.As somebody said, you just have to hear speak YOUR president on interviews etc. telling all those silly things.And besides,we,in Spain,aren't in a blackhole(as somebody said)talking about news arriving from USA.Everybody in Europe knows that on TV news in USA they tell only what they want people to know and they hide the real truth about Irak and so on.
Barcelona,Spain
Easy now, I said those things, and the 'black hole' comment was sarcasm. Something lost in translation?
.goat
Thank you for playing this song, today, right now.
mattt wrote:
You do follow current events, right?
mt
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Yes, just pointing out that we've 'been at war' for several years.
Kevin Spacey's sketch on "Saturday Night Live" was funny, and Young posted it on his site, along with all the major media reviews of this record, pro and con. (They're running about 3-to-1 pro, so far.)
For a guy known for his "sensitivity," that shows guts, I think.
I like the way this song refers back to the "we've got to get back to the garden" classic by his pal Joni Mitchell. Young is a thinker, whether or not you like the way he thinks.
Personally, I like the crunch of his guitar...
Fredrikson wrote:
Neil Young truly is the master of subtlety. He's almost as subtle as this album is good!
Fredrikson wrote:
i think i'm starting to like this..god help me..
I was just thinking the same thing. Never noticed the chord progression before.
i think i'm starting to like this..god help me..
Geecheeboy wrote:
Of course you base your assessment of our president on personal conversations you have had with him, and having sat in the 6am intelligence briefings, right? I mean, you wouldn't say such awful things about a person from what you have read or heard about somebody, would you?
As somebody said here,you just have to see around for realize what's going on and you don't need to have personal conversations with YOUR president.As somebody said, you just have to hear speak YOUR president on interviews etc. telling all those silly things.And besides,we,in Spain,aren't in a blackhole(as somebody said)talking about news arriving from USA.Everybody in Europe knows that on TV news in USA they tell only what they want people to know and they hide the real truth about Irak and so on.
Barcelona,Spain
Don't get me started again, the cold helps you to keep your mind clear.
Geecheeboy wrote:
By the way I was in the Tahoe area a year ago this week. You are truly fortunate to live in such a beautiful area. But cold? Who'd a thunk it would be so cold in June?
One wrote:
Fair enough
By the way I was in the Tahoe area a year ago this week. You are truly fortunate to live in such a beautiful area. But cold? Who'd a thunk it would be so cold in June?
Fair enough
Geecheeboy wrote:
Uh, because they are trying to kill you? Look, I am not going to convert you and you aren't going to convert me, so let's just enjoy the music, OK?
One wrote:
Who is the ENEMY? Why do we need enemies?
Uh, because they are trying to kill you? Look, I am not going to convert you and you aren't going to convert me, so let's just enjoy the music, OK?
Who is the ENEMY? Why do we need enemies?
Geecheeboy wrote:
Some people may think he's an asshole, but he's OUR asshole. Besides, WE aren't the enemy.
MtnGoat wrote:
Oh puh-leeeze.
And Spain is in a media blackhole where they only get the news from smoke signals, right? One doesn't have to have sat in on 'intelligence briefings' to see what's going on around here. While the whole world's watching, it's also shrinking.
C.
Some people may think he's an asshole, but he's OUR asshole. Besides, WE aren't the enemy.
Geecheeboy wrote:
Of course you base your assessment of our president on personal conversations you have had with him, and having sat in the 6am intelligence briefings, right? I mean, you wouldn't say such awful things about a person from what you have read or heard about somebody, would you?
Oh puh-leeeze.
And Spain is in a media blackhole where they only get the news from smoke signals, right? One doesn't have to have sat in on 'intelligence briefings' to see what's going on around here. While the whole world's watching, it's also shrinking.
C.
What about all the speeches and television appearances, and press conferences, and written interviews? should I go on?...Geecheeboy wrote:
Of course you base your assessment of our president on personal conversations you have had with him, and having sat in the 6am intelligence briefings, right? I mean, you wouldn't say such awful things about a person from what you have read or heard about somebody, would you?
I did it again...stirred up the hornet's nest!!!
One more for me!!!!
tro_73 wrote:
Ok,I write the message again since I made wrong when I wrote it...
I meant:
artists like Neil Young makes you believe that there is still a little hope in the States.
We,in Spain,took that STUPID president,Aznar(the supposed Bush friend)out of our Gobernment.When the Northamerican people will make the same with your STUPID and LIAR president,Bush?
Barcelona,Spain
Of course you base your assessment of our president on personal conversations you have had with him, and having sat in the 6am intelligence briefings, right? I mean, you wouldn't say such awful things about a person from what you have read or heard about somebody, would you?
Ok,I write the message again since I made wrong when I wrote it...
I meant:
artists like Neil Young makes you believe that there is still a little hope in the States.
We,in Spain,took that STUPID president,Aznar(the supposed Bush friend)out of our Gobernment.When the Northamerican people will make the same with your STUPID and LIAR president,Bush?
Barcelona,Spain
UltraNurd wrote:
Kevin Spacey parodying "Neil Young's next political album" on SNL was pretty funny.
Neil Young truly is the master of subtlety. He's almost as subtle as this album is good!
artists like Neil Young makes you believe that there is still a little bit hope in the States.
We,in Spain,took that STUPID president,Aznar(the supposed Bush friend).When the Northamerican people will make the same with your STUPID and LIAR president,Bush?
Barcelona,Spain
MtnGoat wrote:
Here in America on Earth we who believe in our Constitution believe the freedoms it grants should be universal. How is it different on your planet?
C.
Which is why most (maybe all) your governments (plural) like to shove 'freedom' down other countries throats whether they want it USA style or not
UltraNurd wrote:
Kevin Spacey parodying "Neil Young's next political album" on SNL was pretty funny.
Darn, I should have watch the whole SNL w/ Spacey. I just don't find this years cast very funny. Must have been hilarious because KS very good impersonator.
neil, message received. again.
MtnGoat wrote:
Dude, you are so right, and I f*&ked up. I didn't mean to quote you (and I'm a huge colbert fan). I was reacting to eastcoast's post wherein he said:
Sorry, man!
You got cred' with me!
BruceN wrote:
I don't, I was doing my Stephen Colbert impression (see post I was replying to for context)
I guess my tongue firmly in my cheek wasn't apparent.
Dude, you are so right, and I f*&ked up. I didn't mean to quote you (and I'm a huge colbert fan). I was reacting to eastcoast's post wherein he said:
Not saying I agree or disagree with Neil's point of view, but I am sick of non-American artist, mainly from Canada, commenting on American policies. You are here in America, making American money, if you were that concerned then become American.
Sorry, man!
MtnGoat wrote:
Here in America on Earth we who believe in our Constitution believe the freedoms it grants should be universal. How is it different on your planet?
C.
I don't, I was doing my Stephen Colbert impression (see post I was replying to for context)
I guess my tongue firmly in my cheek wasn't apparent.
I like how every song from this album results in a huge amount of posts and political debate world-wide.
Hate/Love him, his music, politics, this album etc --I think he achieves a really important goal with this album: He creates and encourages dialogue amoung people. Whether that was his intention or not, you gotta admit it happens. Generally dialogue is a good thing, especially between nations. Go Neil.
For the record, I'm Canadian, I love Neil Young, I hate this album.
BruceN wrote:
Only American's should have opinions, all others suck it up, you should be so lucky to be an American, Go USA!
Here in America on Earth we who believe in our Constitution believe the freedoms it grants should be universal. How is it different on your planet?
C.
I have no problem with the political message, but the song does nothing for me. Repetitive and whiny. I like Thievery Corporation's "Amerimacka" or "Richest Man in Babylon" for a political song with an awesome groove.
Yes it was killer!
Neil Rocks!
UltraNurd wrote:
Kevin Spacey parodying "Neil Young's next political album" on SNL was pretty funny.
A solid follow-up to Joni's "Woodstock":
"We've gotta get ourselves back to the garden..."
Kevin Spacey parodying "Neil Young's next political album" on SNL was pretty funny.
eastcoast wrote:
I am glad the war has nothing to do with fighting terrorism.
ha ha ha!
earthbased wrote:
We are really the only Superpower (Empire?) left. We take the shots (and the sound bites).
I am the decider! the superpower says to the not so super powers! (taken from a chapter in the book "Comic Book Heros do Exist (they are just very very private)") ... oh, and please don't include me in your sense of we.
BruceN wrote:
Only American's should have opinions, all others suck it up, you should be so lucky to be an American, Go USA!
We are really the only Superpower (Empire?) left. We take the shots (and the sound bites).
lester wrote:
I love Neil Young, but shooting from the hip, I'd say: muddled.
Neil, what do you really mean, I mean, what do you think about it all?
eastcoast wrote:
Not saying I agree or disagree with Neil's point of view, but I am sick of non-American artist, mainly from Canada, commenting on American policies. You are here in America, making American money, if you were that concerned then become American. Nuff said about that...I love his music and his lyrics.
Only American's should have opinions, all others suck it up, you should be so lucky to be an American, Go USA! (said with a Stephen Colbert grin)
shua wrote:
Bang on!!!!!!!! BTW- a neil song ranked under 7? come on!!
Sorry, but US foreign policy has an affect on people far and wide. Of course people comment on things that affect them. I think the fact that those artists don't become american is an indication of their concern.
We don't blame americans for all that shit. We just blame the 51% who voted for that moronic puppet.
I am glad the war has nothing to do with fighting terrorism.
shua wrote:
I'm not Canadian and I no longer live in Canada but I cannot claim to have a better politcal situation in my home country. Australia is also under the reign of a conservative leader who has been at Bush's beck and call. I vote green every election. I therefore reserve the right to bad mouth Australia's, the US's the UK's and any other country's POLITICAL LEADERSHIP whose foreign policy when it comes to war is driven by trade deals, money and oil.
There is a difference between taking issue with a country's politcal leadership and insulting the place or people that live there.
I think Neil has good grasp of that concept. Keep rockin Neil, your a legend.
eastcoast wrote:
As far as I know, Neil has had plenty of opportunities to become a citizen way before Bush was president. He's been around since the 60's, that would give him at least 40years. And if America hasn't improved in 40years, you may have a point, but I think this great land of the United States has improved.
I am also uncertain, when was the last time Canada was attacked. It is amazing how some Canadians come to the United States to escape a lousy currency and high 
tax rates and then complain about our government. I am glad you are standing tall with the other 49% of Americans who voted for the other moronic puppet, but please keep standing in Canada spewing off your venomous condemnation 
while supporting your new elected conservative prime minister. 
I'm not Canadian and I no longer live in Canada but I cannot claim to have a better politcal situation in my home country. Australia is also under the reign of a conservative leader who has been at Bush's beck and call. I vote green every election. I therefore reserve the right to bad mouth Australia's, the US's the UK's and any other country's POLITICAL LEADERSHIP whose foreign policy when it comes to war is driven by trade deals, money and oil.
There is a difference between taking issue with a country's politcal leadership and insulting the place or people that live there.
I think Neil has good grasp of that concept. Keep rockin Neil, your a legend.
tax rates and then complain about our government. I am glad you are standing tall with the other 49% of Americans who voted for the other moronic puppet, but please keep standing in Canada spewing off your venomous condemnation while supporting your new elected conservative prime minister.
why most of the people besides some americans think America is the bully of the world ???
Neil was always an antiwar fighter .What's wrong with that ??
As far as I know, Neil has had plenty of opportunities to become a citizen way before Bush was president. He's been around since the 60's, that would give him at least 40years. And if America hasn't improved in 40years, you may have a point, but I think this great land of the United States has improved.
I am also uncertain, when was the last time Canada was attacked. It is amazing how some Canadians come to the United States to escape a lousy currency and high tax rates and then complain about our government. I am glad you are standing tall with the other 49% of Americans who voted for the other moronic puppet, but please keep standing in Canada spewing off your venomous condemnation while supporting your new elected conservative prime minister.
shua wrote:
tax rates and then complain about our government. I am glad you are standing tall with the other 49% of Americans who voted for the other moronic puppet, but please keep standing in Canada spewing off your venomous condemnation while supporting your new elected conservative prime minister.
shua wrote:
Sorry, but US foreign policy has an affect on people far and wide. Of course people comment on things that affect them. I think the fact that those artists don't become american is an indication of their concern.
We don't blame americans for all that shit. We just blame the 51% who voted for that moronic puppet.
Just remember there are dickheads everywhere. Its nigh on impossible to escape them. Moving just means you have to learn to identify them all over again in their new context so you can avoid them. Essentially the grass is greenest where you look after it the best.
Yes, but having moved to the UK 15 years ago i'm pretty confident the dick-head quotient is significantly lower here. Just an observation.
How about now?