Rosanne Cash — The Wheel
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Length: 4:15
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How long was I alseep?
When did we plan to meet?
Have you been waiting long for me?
When did the sky turn black?
Do you still want me back?
I'll pick it all up piece by piece.
And the wheel goes round and round.
And the flame in our souls will never burn out.
And the wheel, and the wheel goes round.
I am a river with a voice.
I came into your life by choice.
And none can judge just how that feels.
You are a messenger from God.
You are the angel I forgot.
And who's to say that it isn't real?
And the wheel goes round and round.
And the flame in our souls will never burn out.
And the wheel, and the wheel goes round.
I'm not looking for the answers.
Oh, darling don't you see
That just to know the question
Is good enough for me.
Take up the hearts you came to heal.
Put down your dagger and your shield.
You need fear nothing now from me.
I see the essence of the man.
I stand before you as a friend.
The truth moves through us even when we sleep.
And the wheel goes round and round.
And the flame in our souls will never burn out.
And the wheel, and the wheel goes round.
When did we plan to meet?
Have you been waiting long for me?
When did the sky turn black?
Do you still want me back?
I'll pick it all up piece by piece.
And the wheel goes round and round.
And the flame in our souls will never burn out.
And the wheel, and the wheel goes round.
I am a river with a voice.
I came into your life by choice.
And none can judge just how that feels.
You are a messenger from God.
You are the angel I forgot.
And who's to say that it isn't real?
And the wheel goes round and round.
And the flame in our souls will never burn out.
And the wheel, and the wheel goes round.
I'm not looking for the answers.
Oh, darling don't you see
That just to know the question
Is good enough for me.
Take up the hearts you came to heal.
Put down your dagger and your shield.
You need fear nothing now from me.
I see the essence of the man.
I stand before you as a friend.
The truth moves through us even when we sleep.
And the wheel goes round and round.
And the flame in our souls will never burn out.
And the wheel, and the wheel goes round.
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meghan89 wrote:
Reading this review has me wondering and dying to know...do your kids play soccer?
Sucko-barfo is the perfect comment for this song. This is crappy saccharine suburban folk country diluted and distilled for mindless soccer moms driving their minivans! And I am a mom who drives a minivan but mindless I AM NOT!
Reading this review has me wondering and dying to know...do your kids play soccer?
rharvey658 wrote:
It appears the scoring is a properly weighted score: (sum of (score * vote_count)) / total_votes. Exactly how it should be. Tell your friend to quit complaining.
I understand cam97mason's coworker's point. The ratings are distributed in a non-normal fashion. Thus another measure of central tendency might more accurately reflect the true, observed distribution of ratings.
It is a silly concern. Everybody, not just math heads, understands 'averages'. Moreover, for the numerically sophisticated there is the illustration of the distribution of ratings.
RP ain't hiding nothing and this is all supposed to be casual fun, not ultra serious.
It appears the scoring is a properly weighted score: (sum of (score * vote_count)) / total_votes. Exactly how it should be. Tell your friend to quit complaining.
I understand cam97mason's coworker's point. The ratings are distributed in a non-normal fashion. Thus another measure of central tendency might more accurately reflect the true, observed distribution of ratings.
It is a silly concern. Everybody, not just math heads, understands 'averages'. Moreover, for the numerically sophisticated there is the illustration of the distribution of ratings.
RP ain't hiding nothing and this is all supposed to be casual fun, not ultra serious.
beautiful song
Rosanne, you make life easy over and over again with a fresh breath from the nineties 
rharvey658 wrote:
It appears the scoring is a properly weighted score: (sum of (score * vote_count)) / total_votes. Exactly how it should be. Tell your friend to quit complaining.
One example where the median is better than the mean as a measure of "typical" is the wealth distribution (in the U.S. or elsewhere). If there's 1 billionaire & 1000 people with a net worth of $50,000, the average (mean) is $1,050,000,000/1001 = $1,048,951, which if misinterpreted would mean that the average person is a millionaire. This isn't a problem with RP ratings, since they're bounded between 1 & 9. The best way to understand what people think about a particular song is to look at the distribution (right there under the song info). Then you can see the difference, for songs having an average of about 5, between a true "meh" (everybody gives it a 5) & a bimodal distribution where half the people hate it & give it a 1 & the other people love it & give it a 10. I can't think of any reason to even try to find a single number that says which of two songs is "better".
It appears the scoring is a properly weighted score: (sum of (score * vote_count)) / total_votes. Exactly how it should be. Tell your friend to quit complaining.
One example where the median is better than the mean as a measure of "typical" is the wealth distribution (in the U.S. or elsewhere). If there's 1 billionaire & 1000 people with a net worth of $50,000, the average (mean) is $1,050,000,000/1001 = $1,048,951, which if misinterpreted would mean that the average person is a millionaire. This isn't a problem with RP ratings, since they're bounded between 1 & 9. The best way to understand what people think about a particular song is to look at the distribution (right there under the song info). Then you can see the difference, for songs having an average of about 5, between a true "meh" (everybody gives it a 5) & a bimodal distribution where half the people hate it & give it a 1 & the other people love it & give it a 10. I can't think of any reason to even try to find a single number that says which of two songs is "better".
I swear every song from the early '90s used this same drum kit. Sounds like the theme from Friends.
Her voice deserves better than this song choice.
cam97mason wrote:
Actually not such a bad idea. What is commonly referred to as "average" is usually the "mean." Unfortunately the mean is greatly affected by extreme outliers. This is why median housing prices are always referred to instead of the mean house price. This is a way to prevent the extreme outlier (i.e. 10 million dollar house), from affecting the average house price of all the other houses that are priced reasonably and allows people to know what the true average of house prices in that area are. And yes, it is fun for me to see evenly distributed bell curves in the ratings. I'm off to the nerd corner of RP now. Regardless, thanks for the music Bill! : )
My coworker will not stop complaining about the skewed rating system of the songs. He would much prefer you use a weighted mean or a median score. According to him, if you took a more evenly distributed score across each vote this song would rank much higher. Can someone please 1) change the rating system to more accurately account for the vote distribution OR 2) tell my coworker to lighten up and stop being so pedantic all the time. At this point, either one would work...
Thanks Bill
Thanks Bill
Actually not such a bad idea. What is commonly referred to as "average" is usually the "mean." Unfortunately the mean is greatly affected by extreme outliers. This is why median housing prices are always referred to instead of the mean house price. This is a way to prevent the extreme outlier (i.e. 10 million dollar house), from affecting the average house price of all the other houses that are priced reasonably and allows people to know what the true average of house prices in that area are. And yes, it is fun for me to see evenly distributed bell curves in the ratings. I'm off to the nerd corner of RP now. Regardless, thanks for the music Bill! : )
meghan89 wrote:
Yikes, maybe the little ones have been on your nerves just a bit. Try to chill out, open another box of white zinfandel, there's time before that PTA meeting.
Sucko-barfo is the perfect comment for this song. This is crappy saccharine suburban folk country diluted and distilled for mindless soccer moms driving their minivans!
And I am a mom who drives a minivan but mindless I AM NOT!
Yikes, maybe the little ones have been on your nerves just a bit. Try to chill out, open another box of white zinfandel, there's time before that PTA meeting.
cam97mason wrote:
Are you working from home these days because of the 'rona? If so, we should be careful how to proceed, when co-workers are also family, that's a whole different level of stress!
You don't wanna tell your coworker off, lest you end up sleeping on the couch!
My coworker will not stop complaining about the skewed rating system of the songs. He would much prefer you use a weighted mean or a median score. According to him, if you took a more evenly distributed score across each vote this song would rank much higher. Can someone please 1) change the rating system to more accurately account for the vote distribution OR 2) tell my coworker to lighten up and stop being so pedantic all the time. At this point, either one would work...
Thanks Bill
Thanks Bill
Are you working from home these days because of the 'rona? If so, we should be careful how to proceed, when co-workers are also family, that's a whole different level of stress!
You don't wanna tell your coworker off, lest you end up sleeping on the couch!
cam97mason wrote:
Heh. Your co-worker needs to lighten up. The median score for this song is 7, in case that helps them. That's also the most popular score, so they could look at that if they want to feel better. I wouldn't say 6.2 -> 7 is 'much' higher, though. :)
My coworker will not stop complaining about the skewed rating system of the songs. He would much prefer you use a weighted mean or a median score. According to him, if you took a more evenly distributed score across each vote this song would rank much higher. Can someone please 1) change the rating system to more accurately account for the vote distribution OR 2) tell my coworker to lighten up and stop being so pedantic all the time. At this point, either one would work...
Thanks Bill
Thanks Bill
Heh. Your co-worker needs to lighten up. The median score for this song is 7, in case that helps them. That's also the most popular score, so they could look at that if they want to feel better. I wouldn't say 6.2 -> 7 is 'much' higher, though. :)
cam97mason wrote:
You get to listen to RP at work? Tell your co-worker to get back to work before they get canned.
My coworker will not stop complaining about the skewed rating system of the songs. He would much prefer you use a weighted mean or a median score. According to him, if you took a more evenly distributed score across each vote this song would rank much higher. Can someone please 1) change the rating system to more accurately account for the vote distribution OR 2) tell my coworker to lighten up and stop being so pedantic all the time. At this point, either one would work...
Thanks Bill
Thanks Bill
You get to listen to RP at work? Tell your co-worker to get back to work before they get canned.
rharvey658 wrote:
It appears the scoring is a properly weighted score: (sum of (score * vote_count)) / total_votes. Exactly how it should be. Tell your friend to quit complaining.
Oh, but what about mean, standard deviation, 95% percentile, etc?? RP (for most) is a happy place, statistics class (for most) is NOT a happy place. cam97mason please tell your coworker to leave us to our happy place.
It appears the scoring is a properly weighted score: (sum of (score * vote_count)) / total_votes. Exactly how it should be. Tell your friend to quit complaining.
Oh, but what about mean, standard deviation, 95% percentile, etc?? RP (for most) is a happy place, statistics class (for most) is NOT a happy place. cam97mason please tell your coworker to leave us to our happy place.
cam97mason wrote:
What's your co-worker's email address?
My coworker will not stop complaining about the skewed rating system of the songs. He would much prefer you use a weighted mean or a median score. According to him, if you took a more evenly distributed score across each vote this song would rank much higher. Can someone please 1) change the rating system to more accurately account for the vote distribution OR 2) tell my coworker to lighten up and stop being so pedantic all the time. At this point, either one would work...
Thanks Bill
Thanks Bill
What's your co-worker's email address?
cam97mason wrote:
It appears the scoring is a properly weighted score: (sum of (score * vote_count)) / total_votes. Exactly how it should be. Tell your friend to quit complaining.
My coworker will not stop complaining about the skewed rating system of the songs. He would much prefer you use a weighted mean or a median score. According to him, if you took a more evenly distributed score across each vote this song would rank much higher. Can someone please 1) change the rating system to more accurately account for the vote distribution OR 2) tell my coworker to lighten up and stop being so pedantic all the time. At this point, either one would work...
Thanks Bill
Thanks Bill
It appears the scoring is a properly weighted score: (sum of (score * vote_count)) / total_votes. Exactly how it should be. Tell your friend to quit complaining.
My coworker will not stop complaining about the skewed rating system of the songs. He would much prefer you use a weighted mean or a median score. According to him, if you took a more evenly distributed score across each vote this song would rank much higher. Can someone please 1) change the rating system to more accurately account for the vote distribution OR 2) tell my coworker to lighten up and stop being so pedantic all the time. At this point, either one would work...
Thanks Bill
Thanks Bill
Boring repetitive tune. Rhythm section is machine. And appeals to God really irk me
Talented family, but not my kind of singer. Too pop.
nice, thanks Bill,...but more Lucinda would be even better
9:45 pm - Rosanne Cash - The Wheel
9:41 pm - King Crimson - Eyes Wide Open
Really great song sequencing based on the guitar work in each track. Never, ever woulda connected these two tracks myself. Inspired!
Sucko-barfo is the perfect comment for this song. This is crappy saccharine suburban folk country diluted and distilled for mindless soccer moms driving their minivans!
And I am a mom who drives a minivan but mindless I AM NOT!
Promising... Then it surpasses the promise - A 10
Promising start, then a letdown... a 5.
Wow, this is SO much better than that car commercial! :roll:
FeatFanMike wrote:
She must have received her abilities from her mother's side. Rosanne seems quite good.
Yeah, Johnny Cash was just a talentless, voiceless, soulless old man with no redeeming musical abilities. RIP Johnny!
I really like it 
an emoticon is worth 100 words...JokesandJokesandJokes wrote:
Roseanne Cash killed Howie Epstein!!!
No, that would be Carlene Carter, her half sister.
It sounds 100% like Jann Arden....
Anybody picking up on Cowboy Junkies in there?
ladybinnath wrote:
Agreed...I've owned "The Wheel" since the CD came out back in 1993 or so and that tire commerical just makes me cringe. :P
That "circular" guitar riff (that's how it's credited in the liner notes!) that Steuart Smith does here is incredible.
Sounds like he's been listening to the Freddy Jones Band 8).
Why isn't she a bigger star? Her "Rules of Travel" CD that came out last year is outstanding!!! No justice in tehmusic world...
She reminds me of Mary Chapin Carpenter. Really nice song!
Roseanne Cash killed Howie Epstein!!!
Actually, no. Roseanne's mother is not the late June Carter Cash. Roseanne Cash is the daughter of Johnny Cash and his first wife, Vivian Liberto. Her parents separated when she was very young. She grew up with her mother in California.
Patrick wrote:
"Her mother's side" is one of the icon families of Nashville music. No, there's no problem there. I happen to think JC's abilities add to it, also.
Art_Carnage wrote:
Much better than the version used to sell tires. Nice!
I never knew that the tire version was just a crappy cover of this tune until I just heard Roseanne Cash's original a moment ago. I thought some underpaid jingle guy wrote it for BS. I like this original 8)
Art_Carnage wrote:
Much better than the version used to sell tires. Nice!
Agreed...I've owned "The Wheel" since the CD came out back in 1993 or so and that tire commerical just makes me cringe. :P
That "circular" guitar riff (that's how it's credited in the liner notes!) that Steuart Smith does here is incredible.
FeatFanMike wrote:
She must have received her abilities from her mother's side. Rosanne seems quite good.
"Her mother's side" is one of the icon families of Nashville music. No, there's no problem there. I happen to think JC's abilities add to it, also.
Originally Posted by harmanjd:
Any relation to Johnny?
She must have received her abilities from her mother's side. Rosanne seems quite good.
The man in black's daughter.
Beautiful song, well produced.
Much better than the version used to sell tires. Nice!
first song that i ever heard her do - and i\'ve been a fan ever since
Nothing short of lovely. Seriously masterful.
Thanks for the Roseanne! Saw her at the Birchmere perform most of this excellent album live. Steuart Smith (guitar)is amazing!
Originally Posted by harmanjd:
Any relation to Johnny?
The man in black's daughter.
Beautiful song, well produced.
excellent selection from a great cd. play more anytime. thanks!
Any relation to Johnny?
I\'ve been a fan since her early days. Glad she\'s included in the mix.
:hurl: <-- we need that one
Yikes, maybe the little ones have been on your nerves just a bit. Try to chill out, open another box of white zinfandel, there's time before that PTA meeting.
Good advice, generally. Have some sympathy. Have you never had the entire well-being of an individual or individuals in your hands? It's exhausting, She had a bad day. It happens. Cut her a break for God's sake.