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And she ran to the police station
When the papa found out he began to shout
And he started the investigation
It's against the law
It was against the law
What the mama saw
It was against the law
The mama looked down and spit on the ground
Everytime my name gets mentioned
The papa said oy if I get that boy
I'm gonna stick him in the house of detention
Well I'm on my way
I don't know where I'm going
I'm on my way
I'm taking my time
But I don't know where
Goodbye to Rosie the queen of Corona
See me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
See me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
In a couple of days they come and
Take me away
But the press let the story leak
And when the radical priest
Come to get me released
We was all on the cover of Newsweek
And I'm on my way
I don't know where I'm going
I'm on my way
I'm taking my time
But I don't know where
Goodbye to Rosie the queen of Corona
See me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
See me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
See me and Julio
Down by the schoolyard
Heard this about two hundred times but never really paid attention to the lyrics. Interesting.
Same here. Thank You for the lyrics, RP!
I learned from Wikipedia that the percussion sound in the song was created with a cuica, a Brazilian friction drum instrument often used in samba music. It was played by Brazilian jazz percussionist Airto Moreira.
Cool!! I have been an Airto fan since the 70s!! & his wife, Flora Purim!! ...Thank You for the info!!
Why, Corona is a neighborhood in Queens just north of Flushing where Paul Simon grew up. Corona back then and today is predominantly a Spanish speaking neighborhood, with residents from across Central and South America.
Very well stated!! It has nothing to do with Corona beer, LOL!
^ this line did NOT age well
Why, Corona is a neighborhood in Queens just north of Flushing where Paul Simon grew up. Corona back then and today is predominantly a Spanish speaking neighborhood, with residents from across Central and South America.
sweet
BillG is a master at pulling these types of segues together. Where some might see two unique songs, Bill can find the common thread and weave them together into something special. It's what makes RP so dang special...
Think these guys listen to RP?
https://www[dot]youtube.com/watch?v=GtQY6nye8fw
(I can't enter the url because it autoplays the video on youtube, so replace the [dot] with, well, you know...)
Back in the 1980's, I read an interview where Simon trashed all of his "Simon and Garfunkel" era songs.
That was when I began to question his integrity, and certainly his taste. How disingenuous is it to claim that your work (beloved by millions), work that made you famous, is crap? Does he give all of his royalties directly to Garfunkel? Donate them to charity?
It's also quite disrespectful of the people who bought his music. Sting did the same thing, and it was equally distasteful. Then there was the (very profitable) violation of the South African embargo... Desmond Tutu has still not forgiven him, and neither will I.
Speaking as a visual artist, I have made a number of drawings and paintings that I'm dissatisfied with or flat out hate. Even the good ones have their parts that I'm not happy with (a body part that looks a little off, color not quite right). I would imagine that songwwriters and musicians have a similar experience when they look back on a song or a performance. You want your creative expression to be at its best. When you look back, you see things you
might have done differently given time, perspective and experience.
The artist has the right to express that, as does the listener to keep on appreciating the song.
Without that pairing, I would probably have missed the melodic similarities.
BillG is a master at pulling these types of segues together. Where some might see two unique songs, Bill can find the common thread and weave them together into something special. It's what makes RP so dang special...
^ this line did NOT age well
lol. In this instance, it's a reference to the Corona section of Queens, New York City. Near where Simon grew up.
I think he did this on SNL as a short film where he played stickball with Mickey Mantle.
^ this line did NOT age well
"Goodbye to Rosie the queen of Corona"
Because of the pandemic and this particular line this song keeps popping up in my head for weeks now. I wished it would stop.
He was making a bit of wordplay there. Corona is a neighborhood in the NYC borough of Queens, but there can be other interpretations - some of which I thought of when hearing this song back in my teens.
No one will be watching us; why don't we do it in the road?
Without that pairing, I would probably have missed the melodic similarities.
(drugs? something homosexual?.....)
It's left to our imagination.
Simon himself had only this to say:
"The meaning and references in the song have long provoked debate. In a July 20, 1972 interview for Rolling Stone, Jon Landau
asked Simon: "What is it that the mama saw? The whole world wants to
know." Simon replied "I have no idea what it is... Something sexual is what I imagine, but when I say 'something', I never bothered to figure out what it was. Didn't make any difference to me.""
Artistic ambiguity at its finest!
wow, a thousand thanks for this, priceless
That was awesome!!!!
I think he's ripping off the much better bands we have today...like Arcade Fire! Oooooh, now that's a band!
Yeah! He owes like Vampire Weekend som real kudos, man.
I think he's ripping off the much better bands we have today...like Arcade Fire! Oooooh, now that's a band!
Everybody in my mushrooming multitude of churches loves this song...
wow, a thousand thanks for this, priceless
The first song of the album, "Mother and child reunion", is still one of my all-time favorite songs.
I'll confess I prefer "Me and Julio..." in the incredibly dynamic and celebrating version of the reunion concert in Central Park... Not that Simon's original is to be disregarded in any way.
or maybe you just have pretty old taste for a good guy...
Or maybe you taste pretty good!
or maybe you just have pretty old taste for a good guy...
I'm gonna go practice my whistling now...
Paul is still making great music. Whistle on...
That is one of my wife's favorite movies. I really didn't get it at all when I first saw it. She kept describing it as a comedy, but it never really came off as the kind of funny I was thinking it would be. Then we watched it about a year later and for some reason it sunk in. It's a very darkly funny comedy where everyone is at least a little bit crazy.
Moonrise Kingdom is very much of the same vein and we went to see it with the in-laws. We all really enjoyed it.
Everybody in my hotel room loves this song...
..and everbody down by the schoolyard too.. loves it.
Nearly 40 year later and I still cringe and want it to end.
I don't know ...
But fans have the right to hold onto the old music of a performer as part of their ongoing lives. They don't have to consider the opinion of the artist, who's sick to death of playing or talking about "Sounds of Silence" or "Tea in the Sahara" or "Begin the Beguine."
Back in the 1980's, I read an interview where Simon trashed all of his "Simon and Garfunkel" era songs.
That was when I began to question his integrity, and certainly his taste. How disingenuous is it to claim that your work (beloved by millions), work that made you famous, is crap? Does he give all of his royalties directly to Garfunkel? Donate them to charity?
It's also quite disrespectful of the people who bought his music. Sting did the same thing, and it was equally distasteful. Then there was the (very profitable) violation of the South African embargo... Desmond Tutu has still not forgiven him, and neither will I.
I don't know the whole story about violating a South African embargo, or Bishop Tutu's take on Paul Simon. Other RPers have pointed out that Paul Simon tried to take total credit for the song "The Myth of Fingerprints", which he apparently stole from Los Lobos during studio sessions. When LL confronted Simon, he told them to sue him and threatened to destroy their careers.
Maybe Paul Simon isn't the greatest guy. But as you pointed out, Sting and others have trashed their past efforts. I absolutely loved Billy Joel's live album "Songs in the Attic", but he referred to it as "Songs in the Toilet" years later. Apparently he does that sort of thing a lot...when he's not crashing cars.
Perhaps these songwriters need to break with their past work in order to clear their heads and write new (and hopefully) better stuff. But once the've put a song out there, fans will appropriate and interpret it as they see fit. Couples repeatedly told Sting that "Every Breath You Take" was their song, which annoyed him because he wrote the work in the voice of an obsessed, dangerous stalker.
Years ago Paul Simon starred in a movie called "One Trick Pony" about a songwriter struggling to make himself relevant again, only to face fans who just wanted him to play his one hit song yet again. I'm sure he dreads living that part when he starts up another Simon and Garfunkel tour—his music from that era has to be only about the money for him at this point.
In short: artists have the right and (maybe) need to move from their past. Hell, Artie Shaw repeatedly quit touring and playing. He even walked off bandstands in the middle of performances. He put the clarinet down at the height of his career and never picked it up again. Check out his bio on Wikipedia—a complex and self-confessed "very difficult man."
But fans have the right to hold onto the old music of a performer as part of their ongoing lives. They don't have to consider the opinion of the artist, who's sick to death of playing or talking about "Sounds of Silence" or "Tea in the Sahara" or "Begin the Beguine."
Back in the 1980's, I read an interview where Simon trashed all of his "Simon and Garfunkel" era songs.
That was when I began to question his integrity, and certainly his taste. How disingenuous is it to claim that your work (beloved by millions), work that made you famous, is crap? Does he give all of his royalties directly to Garfunkel? Donate them to charity?
It's also quite disrespectful of the people who bought his music. Sting did the same thing, and it was equally distasteful. Then there was the (very profitable) violation of the South African embargo... Desmond Tutu has still not forgiven him, and neither will I.
If you enjoy Sondheim, and I do, here's a link to the full review: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/31/books/review/Simon-t.html?_r=1&ref=books. It says as much about Simon as he says about Sondheim—IOW not the best written review. Who'd have thought he was that insecure?
I'm gonna go practice my whistling now...
Thank you Paul Simon!
(drugs? something homosexual?.....)
pshhh. You go and try to stick 5 different major chords in a song and make it sound that easy. Then come back and repeat what you said.
"me & Julio down by the schoolyard"
doing, anyway?
"I'm gonna stick that boy in the
House of Detention!"
Sounds serious...
ala Wiki
Debate
Some believe the incident in the song refers to an arrest at an antiwar protest on a college campus (the "schoolyard"), with the "radical priest" (whom the singer claims will appear with him "on the cover of Newsweek") being either Philip or Daniel Berrigan, priests noteworthy for their antiwar activity during the Vietnam War. It has been said also that the "radical priest" could be the Rev. William Sloane Coffin, chaplain from Yale, upon whom the Scot Sloan character in Doonesbury was based.
In a July 20, 1972 interview for Rolling Stone, Jon Landau asked: "What is it that the mama saw? The whole world wants to know." Simon replied "I have no idea what it is... Something sexual is what I imagine, but when I say 'something', I never bothered to figure out what it was. Didn't make any difference to me." This has not stopped speculation: Truman Capote said that he believed the protagonist and Julio were involved in a homosexual relationship; other commentators have detected references to recreational drug use, and believe that the mother saw the boy buying drugs.
"me & Julio down by the schoolyard"
doing, anyway?
"I'm gonna stick that boy in the
House of Detention!"
Sounds serious...
"It was against the law
Oh what the mama saw
it was against the law"
I've been wondering too....
Hard evidence that this imposter had nothing to do with Simon & Garfunkel.