Genesis — Duchess
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Times were good
She never thought about the future, she just did what she would
Oh, but she really cared
About her music, it all seemed so important then
And she dreamed that everytime that she performed
Everyone would cry for more
That all she had to do was step into the light
And everyone would start to roar
And on the road
Where all but a few fall by the wayside, on the grassier verge
She battled through
Against the others in her world, and the sleep, and the odds
But now everytime that she performed
Everybody cried for more
Soon all she had to do was step into the light
For everyone to start to roar
And all the people cried: "You're the one we've waited for!"
But time went by
It wasn't so easy now, all uphill and not feeling so strong
Yes, times were hard
Too much thinking about the future and what the people might want
And then there was the time that she performed
When NOBODY called for more
And soon everytime she stepped into the light
They really let her know the score
But she dreamed of the times when she sang her songs
And everybody cried for more
When all she had to do was step into the light
For everyone to start to roar
And all the people cried: "You're the one we've waited for!"
She never thought about the future, she just did what she would
Oh, but she really cared
About her music, it all seemed so important then
And she dreamed that everytime that she performed
Everyone would cry for more
That all she had to do was step into the light
And everyone would start to roar
And on the road
Where all but a few fall by the wayside, on the grassier verge
She battled through
Against the others in her world, and the sleep, and the odds
But now everytime that she performed
Everybody cried for more
Soon all she had to do was step into the light
For everyone to start to roar
And all the people cried: "You're the one we've waited for!"
But time went by
It wasn't so easy now, all uphill and not feeling so strong
Yes, times were hard
Too much thinking about the future and what the people might want
And then there was the time that she performed
When NOBODY called for more
And soon everytime she stepped into the light
They really let her know the score
But she dreamed of the times when she sang her songs
And everybody cried for more
When all she had to do was step into the light
For everyone to start to roar
And all the people cried: "You're the one we've waited for!"
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GREAT!! Not their best tune, but still Great. Thank You RP!
Always like the pairing of Behind the Lines and this one to start off the album
meatmike wrote:
Just re-bought this album on vinyl (VG+...so happy for the find!) and its as spectacular as it was 40some years ago. Approachable and yet, still challenging...definitely worth loving!
I love this album!
Just re-bought this album on vinyl (VG+...so happy for the find!) and its as spectacular as it was 40some years ago. Approachable and yet, still challenging...definitely worth loving!
This "Duchess" along with "Ripples" my 2 fav Genesis songs love em
My favorite band ever. For over 40 years. They played their final show last Saturday 3/26/22 in London and I watched the hundreds of YouTube recordings posted of their swan song. It was very emotional.
Ando wrote:
I think Genesis falls under the "religion" category, along with Exodus, Leviticus...
It's not that bad.
I think Genesis falls under the "religion" category, along with Exodus, Leviticus...
It's not that bad.
On_The_Beach wrote:
Who's on first?
That's right!
Who's on first?
That's right!
aaand what?
dandueck07 wrote:
By ignoring A Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering - I believe you are missing out on some quality output. Steve Hackett is still in and contributing his edge.
This was the only Genesis album I bought after Gabriel left to pursue his solo career. Without Gabriel's creative genius, I felt that the band, like Phil Collins, produced music that became too repetitious. That Peter Gabriel has stayed relevant much longer than his bandmate, Collins, has only reinforced my belief.
By ignoring A Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering - I believe you are missing out on some quality output. Steve Hackett is still in and contributing his edge.
Grammarcop wrote:
I think Genesis falls under the "religion" category, along with Exodus, Leviticus...
Remember that old saying that religion and politics were off limits at dinner?
Maybe that should be religion, politics and Genesis.
I think Genesis falls under the "religion" category, along with Exodus, Leviticus...
secretsauce wrote:
While I somewhat agree with the 3 phases breakdown ... your naming is not really fair to PC.
First, you missed two (very good) albums (Wind and Wuthering and Trick of the Tail) between LLDOB and ATTW3. Second, PC did the lion's share of the songwriting for all four of those albums that you call the "TB years". And those "pop-star years" continued even after PC left in 1996, and TB (with MR) continued without him, with TB doing the bulk of song-writing, and Ray Wilson doing vocals on Calling All Stations.
So TB (and MR) were at least equally responsible for whatever new directions they took ("pop-star" or not) after the departure of Gabriel.
Who's on first?
While I somewhat agree with the 3 phases breakdown ... your naming is not really fair to PC.
First, you missed two (very good) albums (Wind and Wuthering and Trick of the Tail) between LLDOB and ATTW3. Second, PC did the lion's share of the songwriting for all four of those albums that you call the "TB years". And those "pop-star years" continued even after PC left in 1996, and TB (with MR) continued without him, with TB doing the bulk of song-writing, and Ray Wilson doing vocals on Calling All Stations.
So TB (and MR) were at least equally responsible for whatever new directions they took ("pop-star" or not) after the departure of Gabriel.
Who's on first?
Grammarcop wrote:
Lol. Add Fleetwood Mac to that (Peter Green/Danny Kirwan vs Buckingham Nicks era)
Remember that old saying that religion and politics were off limits at dinner?
Maybe that should be religion, politics and Genesis.
Maybe that should be religion, politics and Genesis.
Lol. Add Fleetwood Mac to that (Peter Green/Danny Kirwan vs Buckingham Nicks era)
Remember that old saying that religion and politics were off limits at dinner?
Maybe that should be religion, politics and Genesis.
Maybe that should be religion, politics and Genesis.
I love this album!
Didn't have this album. Not sure I've ever heard this nugget!
Thanks Bill & Rebecca!
Thanks Bill & Rebecca!
rgio wrote:
PG was the Gabriel years thru LLDOB. Great
TB were the Tony Banks years...ATTW3 through Duke. Great, in a different way
PC was the Collins...pop-star years. Great, it yet another different way.
Genesis (IMO) has 3 distinct phases: PG / TB / PC
PG was the Gabriel years thru LLDOB. Great
TB were the Tony Banks years...ATTW3 through Duke. Very, very good
PC was the Collins...pop-star years. Not much worth re-listening to.
PG was the Gabriel years thru LLDOB. Great
TB were the Tony Banks years...ATTW3 through Duke. Very, very good
PC was the Collins...pop-star years. Not much worth re-listening to.
PG was the Gabriel years thru LLDOB. Great
TB were the Tony Banks years...ATTW3 through Duke. Great, in a different way
PC was the Collins...pop-star years. Great, it yet another different way.
rgio wrote:
While I somewhat agree with the 3 phases breakdown ... your naming is not really fair to PC.
First, you missed two (very good) albums (Wind and Wuthering and Trick of the Tail) between LLDOB and ATTW3. Second, PC did the lion's share of the songwriting for all four of those albums that you call the "TB years". And those "pop-star years" continued even after PC left in 1996, and TB (with MR) continued without him, with TB doing the bulk of song-writing, and Ray Wilson doing vocals on Calling All Stations.
So TB (and MR) were at least equally responsible for whatever new directions they took ("pop-star" or not) after the departure of Gabriel.
Genesis (IMO) has 3 distinct phases: PG / TB / PC
PG was the Gabriel years thru LLDOB. Great
TB were the Tony Banks years...ATTW3 through Duke. Very, very good
PC was the Collins...pop-star years. Not much worth re-listening to.
PG was the Gabriel years thru LLDOB. Great
TB were the Tony Banks years...ATTW3 through Duke. Very, very good
PC was the Collins...pop-star years. Not much worth re-listening to.
While I somewhat agree with the 3 phases breakdown ... your naming is not really fair to PC.
First, you missed two (very good) albums (Wind and Wuthering and Trick of the Tail) between LLDOB and ATTW3. Second, PC did the lion's share of the songwriting for all four of those albums that you call the "TB years". And those "pop-star years" continued even after PC left in 1996, and TB (with MR) continued without him, with TB doing the bulk of song-writing, and Ray Wilson doing vocals on Calling All Stations.
So TB (and MR) were at least equally responsible for whatever new directions they took ("pop-star" or not) after the departure of Gabriel.
westslope wrote:
This was 5 years, and 4 albums, after Peter Gabriel left.
Not familiar with this 1980 tune but it does sound like 'early Genesis', i.e., before Peter Gabriel left.
This was 5 years, and 4 albums, after Peter Gabriel left.
A solid album.
Genesis (IMO) has 3 distinct phases: PG / TB / PC
PG was the Gabriel years thru LLDOB. Great
TB were the Tony Banks years...ATTW3 through Duke. Very, very good
PC was the Collins...pop-star years. Not much worth re-listening to.
PG was the Gabriel years thru LLDOB. Great
TB were the Tony Banks years...ATTW3 through Duke. Very, very good
PC was the Collins...pop-star years. Not much worth re-listening to.
bam23 wrote:
But this is in no way early Genesis. In fact, I stopped paying attention not long after Peter Gabriel left. I think they lost their unique qualities well before the album. Early includes Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, etc.
Couldn't disagree more. Mike Rutherford, Tony Banks, and Phil Collins made a potent song writing team for years after Gabriel left (including this album and the two before it going back to 1976). It was just a different thing from the Gabriel years, much like Fleetwood Mac before and after Nicks/Buckingham.
But this is in no way early Genesis. In fact, I stopped paying attention not long after Peter Gabriel left. I think they lost their unique qualities well before the album. Early includes Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, etc.
Couldn't disagree more. Mike Rutherford, Tony Banks, and Phil Collins made a potent song writing team for years after Gabriel left (including this album and the two before it going back to 1976). It was just a different thing from the Gabriel years, much like Fleetwood Mac before and after Nicks/Buckingham.
El_Monty wrote:
Yup, but a bit 'pop-y' for me. Early stuff MUCH better. Saw the Duke tour; pretty damned amazing.
This was the last great one they did.
Yup, but a bit 'pop-y' for me. Early stuff MUCH better. Saw the Duke tour; pretty damned amazing.
El_Monty wrote:
Not really.
Ahh, Duke. One of my favorite Genesis albums. This was the last great one they did. :)
Not really.
great song!
crank it up.
crank it up.
bam23 wrote:
But this is in no way early Genesis. In fact, I stopped paying attention not long after Peter Gabriel left. I think they lost their unique qualities well before the album. Early includes Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, etc.
my favorite albums are Foxtrot and Nursery Crymes, Trick of the Tale and Selling England by the Pound! Love 'em!
But this is in no way early Genesis. In fact, I stopped paying attention not long after Peter Gabriel left. I think they lost their unique qualities well before the album. Early includes Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, etc.
my favorite albums are Foxtrot and Nursery Crymes, Trick of the Tale and Selling England by the Pound! Love 'em!
Not familiar with this 1980 tune but it does sound like 'early Genesis', i.e., before Peter Gabriel left.
Thanks for playing.
Thanks for playing.
memoryboxer wrote:
Seconds Out is a masterpiece in my opinion. Things start going downhill after And then there were 3.
I find I can't even fully embrace the before/after Gabriel battle over Genesis, as both periods had hits and misses. Yes, most of my faves are circa Selling England by the Pound, but Then There Were Three had some brilliance and this track is a reminder that they could do more than just set Collins to Whine for radio pap.
Seconds Out is a masterpiece in my opinion. Things start going downhill after And then there were 3.
Thank you Phil, for screaming on this one.
This was the only Genesis album I bought after Gabriel left to pursue his solo career. Without Gabriel's creative genius, I felt that the band, like Phil Collins, produced music that became too repetitious. That Peter Gabriel has stayed relevant much longer than his bandmate, Collins, has only reinforced my belief.
I find I can't even fully embrace the before/after Gabriel battle over Genesis, as both periods had hits and misses. Yes, most of my faves are circa Selling England by the Pound, but Then There Were Three had some brilliance and this track is a reminder that they could do more than just set Collins to Whine for radio pap.
Lots so say here. Lets just say well above typ pop static, but a bit below in the Genesis meter - as a fan of both "classic" and the later. I recently heard Then There Were Three, I was blown away - After not hearing it for like ten years. . Looking forward to Selling England By the Pound live by Steve Hackett.. (a classic)
Always liked the lyrics. I figured the band members got to thinking that the limelight was not always going to be theirs.
Just hearing the opening bars of this has made my heart go Pat, and the fun-bumps have woken up on my right arm.
*Floats off with the fairies for a bit*
*Floats off with the fairies for a bit*
Genesis during- and post-Gabriel are two very different bands. Duke was one of the great albums from the latter. Love this album! Loved this tour!
emcibulka wrote:
Indeed. I was just spinning 'Selling England By The Pound' two days ago during my commute. Maybe Bill could play 'The Cinema Show' to get this place moving.
I am still a huge fan of early Genesis. Great unique sound. Very happy to hear it again. Please play more, Bill!
Indeed. I was just spinning 'Selling England By The Pound' two days ago during my commute. Maybe Bill could play 'The Cinema Show' to get this place moving.
emcibulka wrote:
But this is in no way early Genesis. In fact, I stopped paying attention not long after Peter Gabriel left. I think they lost their unique qualities well before the album. Early includes Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, etc.
I am still a huge fan of early Genesis. Great unique sound. Very happy to hear it again. Please play more, Bill!
But this is in no way early Genesis. In fact, I stopped paying attention not long after Peter Gabriel left. I think they lost their unique qualities well before the album. Early includes Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, etc.
I am still a huge fan of early Genesis. Great unique sound. Very happy to hear it again. Please play more, Bill!
Just OK. Pedestrian, unimaginative and, well, just not special anymore.
El_Monty wrote:
Abacab is pretty killer and their eponymous '83 release has it's moments, particularly Home By The Sea (parts 1 and 2).
Ahh, Duke. One of my favorite Genesis albums. This was the last great one they did. :)
Abacab is pretty killer and their eponymous '83 release has it's moments, particularly Home By The Sea (parts 1 and 2).
dwhayslett wrote:
"Sussudio" was from Phil Collins' solo career, post-Genesis.
Yeah, Genesis never got quite that pop-ish. Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks always seemed to mitigate Phil's sound. That's said, it's hard to take Phil to task too much for his sound. It was wildly popular and commercially successful in the mid-80's.
"Sussudio" was from Phil Collins' solo career, post-Genesis.
Yeah, Genesis never got quite that pop-ish. Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks always seemed to mitigate Phil's sound. That's said, it's hard to take Phil to task too much for his sound. It was wildly popular and commercially successful in the mid-80's.
Nice to hear once in awhile. Played the vinyl recently.
kcar wrote:
Thank you lily! I don't know much Genesis from their prog-rock days and this is pretty good. What made them too obnoxious during their pop-song days ("Sussudio") was the excessive overplay.
"Sussudio" was from Phil Collins' solo career, post-Genesis.
Thank you lily! I don't know much Genesis from their prog-rock days and this is pretty good. What made them too obnoxious during their pop-song days ("Sussudio") was the excessive overplay.
"Sussudio" was from Phil Collins' solo career, post-Genesis.
I know these guys went on to have more successful careers flying solo, but dang, some of their genesis stuff was just fantastic!
kcar wrote:
Thank you lily! I don't know much Genesis from their prog-rock days and this is pretty good. What made them too obnoxious during their pop-song days ("Sussudio") was the excessive overplay.
Must have been the goofy 80s fashion that drove me nuts...
Thank you lily! I don't know much Genesis from their prog-rock days and this is pretty good. What made them too obnoxious during their pop-song days ("Sussudio") was the excessive overplay.
Must have been the goofy 80s fashion that drove me nuts...
lily33 wrote:
Thank you lily! I don't know much Genesis from their prog-rock days and this is pretty good. What made them too obnoxious during their pop-song days ("Sussudio") was the excessive overplay.
i missed it!! my upload! cool!! :D 
Thank you lily! I don't know much Genesis from their prog-rock days and this is pretty good. What made them too obnoxious during their pop-song days ("Sussudio") was the excessive overplay.
Originally Posted by noddin0ff:
Ugh. somebody puleeze gag me with a smurf. 
Can do, but, won't.
:p
Genesis... more please! The earlier stuff, it\'s all great!
And, most people have never heard any of it... I suspect.
generally i like phil collins, but not this monotonous drivel.
Ahh, Duke. One of my favorite Genesis albums. This was the last great one they did. :)
i had forgotten how bad genesis really was.
I\'d forgotten that Genesis used to be good...
Originally Posted by lily33:
i missed it!! my upload! cool!! :D
Thanks for the upload! I'm so glad to hear this after soooooooooo many years. Thanks a million lily33.
:)
Some of what Genesis does best... Music! ;)
:D
Originally Posted by lily33:
i missed it!! my upload! cool!! :D
hope you're listening now :D
Originally Posted by KevinM:
Duke is one of my most favorite CD's. I particularly like Behind the Lines and Dukes Travels/Dukes End.
Some of my favorites as well. Collins always hated Travels/End. Probably the last Genesis album that I loved...it was also the first....which is to say that it was the first album of theirs that I heard.....Abacab came out. I hated it and started digging backwards from there.
Kevin
Duke is one of my most favorite CD\'s. I particularly like Behind the Lines and Dukes Travels/Dukes End.
Couldn't disagree more. Mike Rutherford, Tony Banks, and Phil Collins made a potent song writing team for years after Gabriel left (including this album and the two before it going back to 1976). It was just a different thing from the Gabriel years, much like Fleetwood Mac before and after Nicks/Buckingham.