Moodswings — Spiritual High (part III)
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Such a joy to hear 
Shesdifferent wrote:
I Agree, Same here!
I liked this from the very first notes......
I Agree, Same here!
I liked this from the very first notes......
must take a big ego to think you can get the drum machine going and throw MLK's speech on top of it. I think it's disgusting.
getting chills here...
Thank you BillG.
Wow, I wish I could play this on the public square here at full volume.
Well done Bill, on MLK Day. Well done.
Definitely a good day to play this song.
A perfect song for today.
mojoman wrote:
Partly because of the dumbing down of our culture and rampant political correctness. Dr. King assumed a certain level of education and cultural awareness among his listeners. He could salt his speech with biblical allusions and know that his listeners understood. Compare that to today, when the cultural elite either completely miss such allusions or think they're some kind of special code-speak between, say, President Bush and his supporters.
Yea, you're right. Ted Kennedy and Howard Dean and the rest are much much better.
The whole album is awesome by the way.
...He was definitely 'of a time and place.' I appreciate Chrissie's inclusion , and suspect we could always stand to hear more of Rev. King's thoughts, whether in part , or whole.
Good stuff.
ChardRemains wrote:
Excellent groove. Now. Question: Why can't today's leaders speak like this?
I agree completely. Todays leaders should sit back and take note. This is one of the most powerful voices of our lifetime.
Trustocity wrote:
I couldn't agree more. In fact, if you want to see how a real master of rhetoric affects a crowd, go listen to Heather Nova sing "Gloomy Sunday."
done?
Nice tune with a good message to us all.
BOOOOOOOOORRRRING!!
still gives me chills, very powerful, and leaves me longing for a time when people stood-up for what they believed...
mojoman wrote:
Partly because of the dumbing down of our culture and rampant political correctness. Dr. King assumed a certain level of education and cultural awareness among his listeners. He could salt his speech with biblical allusions and know that his listeners understood. Compare that to today, when the cultural elite either completely miss such allusions or think they're some kind of special code-speak between, say, President Bush and his supporters.
I couldn't agree more. In fact, if you want to see how a real master of rhetoric affects a crowd, go listen to Heather Nova sing "Gloomy Sunday."
Egads. Upon first listen, I could have sworn this was a Rick Astley track.
Need more coffee...
What really impresses me on this is the way King's speech is so rhythmical and musical in itself, it fits right into the music. You can see how his training in church, where music is so important, made his speech-making abilities better.
That said, I'd really like to play a recording of the speech in sync with this track to see just how much editing they did to make it fit the music so well...
mojoman wrote:
Partly because of the dumbing down of our culture and rampant political correctness. Dr. King assumed a certain level of education and cultural awareness among his listeners. He could salt his speech with biblical allusions and know that his listeners understood. Compare that to today, when the cultural elite either completely miss such allusions or think they're some kind of special code-speak between, say, President Bush and his supporters.
Let's not forget that this is REVEREND Martin Luther King Jr. speaking, not President Martin Luther King Jr. Also, King's actions backed up his words, unlike many others who use biblical references (I believe you mentioned one by name).
ChardRemains wrote:
Excellent groove. Now. Question: Why can't today's leaders speak like this?
The leaders that do try to speak like this are considered right-wing radicals, that's why. Imagine a politician saying this:
..."all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics..." - and you will hear from all of the other sexes, races and religions that they are being excluded. You will be castigated for your intolerance and bigotry.
or
"...and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together." - and the "Separation of Church and State" thought police will shut you down and brand you as a zealot trying to impose your religion on others.
or even
"...I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." - and the grammar police looking to brand you an idiot will point out that one's character does not have "contents".
...
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)
...
Back on topic, the song is an abomination that sullies the good qualities of its separate elements.
-Dinsey
4999thnewuser wrote:
I'd be interested to know where profits, if any, of this music go: Irrespective of the quality of the music it seems somewhat sacreligious to set this to music.
"Sacreligious" is a pretty strong assessment of this composition; not sure I see such an elevation of MLK Jr.
Still, if the King Family has anything to do with it, they are the ones who benefit from any royalties: the likeness of the Rev. Doctor, and recordings of his public appearances, have been copyrighted by the family to the point where they own just about everything.
When dishing out some of that judgment, be sure to save some for the King family.
I'd be interested to know where profits, if any, of this music go: Irrespective of the quality of the music it seems somewhat sacreligious to set this to music.
I LOVE this track. I love the original Vangelis tune, and love the way they use it here.
I love Chrissie's input.
I love the way it respectfully brings MLK's speech (which ALWAYS gives me CHILLS!) to listeners again.
I love the way they keep the speech intact; the way they don't try to dub him or play around with it. They let it be. And the Vangelis tune does it justice.
A totally beautiful and spiritual piece. Excellent!
neuraljazz wrote:
I'd love to just hear the speech. Drop the wannabe vangelis soundtrack.
It's not a wannabe Vangelis. It is a Vangelis/Anderson song written for the Donna Summer. The song is State of indenpendance and it's produced by Quincy Jones.
quite moving. thanks bill.
ChardRemains wrote:
Why can't today's leaders speak like this?
Partly because of the dumbing down of our culture and rampant political correctness. Dr. King assumed a certain level of education and cultural awareness among his listeners. He could salt his speech with biblical allusions and know that his listeners understood. Compare that to today, when the cultural elite either completely miss such allusions or think they're some kind of special code-speak between, say, President Bush and his supporters.
ChardRemains wrote:
Question: Why can't today's leaders speak like this?
i think our world has changed so much it can't happen now. king and others like him had everything on the line, including their lives. they LIVED the struggle. it wasn't something they went to the office to work on.
as for the comments that this belittles the speech, i'd say anything that revives the speech (ok, almost anything) is valuable. we're approaching two generations since king's time. how else will we all know his power? not by having a monday off every january.
btw, i used to listen to king on a.m. radio (all there was). the only speeches to rival his were other ones of his. maybe except for malcolm. or kennedy's inaugural. and somtimes cronkite's commentary. it was an age of passion and intensity. and it's gone.
ScopArch wrote:
Try iTunes. Spend the 99 cents. It's worth it!
good point. i think i might fire up VMware, fire up itunes, and do just that. ^_^
I'd love to just hear the speech. Drop the wannabe vangelis soundtrack.
I really like this actually. It seems to set off the speech well. Of course, this speech just hits home everytime. As far as speechmaking these days, there is a definite lack of passion. The Civil Rights leaders were fighting for FREEDOM! Today, it's just who can be the most PC. bleah.
ChardRemains wrote:
Excellent groove. Now. Question: Why can't today's leaders speak like this?
It was HIS time... He was UNIQUE...who could?
Lazy8 wrote:
I don't offend easily, but wrapping a forgetable ditty around the most important speech of the twentieth century does it for me.
Get your own words, dammit.
I agree. This really seems to cheapen the speech. Awful.
I don't offend easily, but wrapping a forgetable ditty around the most important speech of the twentieth century does it for me.
Get your own words, dammit.
PattonFever wrote:
this is gorgeous! it's also the only part i can find on kazaa. i'm looking for the chrissie hynde part, in particular, but this one certainly does just fine. ^_^
Try iTunes. Spend the 99 cents. It's worth it!
ChardRemains wrote:
Excellent groove. Now. Question: Why can't today's leaders speak like this?
Perhaps because their agendas are monetary, and not spiritual? Good rhetorical question, Chard....
PattonFever wrote:
this is gorgeous! it's also the only part i can find on kazaa. i'm looking for the chrissie hynde part, in particular, but this one certainly does just fine. ^_^
I had forgotten about Chrissie being on this song, and her "vocal production" in "Rainsong". I do love this whole CD. Don't forget, they also got Jeff Beck in the studio for "Skinthieves".
Excellent groove. Now. Question: Why can't today's leaders speak like this?
Just last night, I had this CD in my hand at home and I thought 'when was the last time I heard this?" then I encoded it onto my iPod, but still haven't listened to it yet. Weird!
wasn't this song at the end of Single White Female?
Creation_dreamer wrote:
Lyrics just don't get any better. Thanks MLK.
Amen to that!
NICE SEGUES... A FOREST INTO A SPIRITUAL HIGH INTO A DREAM SOUNDS LIKE A DAY
Lyrics just don't get any better. Thanks MLK.
this is gorgeous! it's also the only part i can find on kazaa. i'm looking for the chrissie hynde part, in particular, but this one certainly does just fine. ^_^
GolfRomeo wrote:
by the way, does anyone have a link to MLK's speech without the music?
MLK - "I Have a Dream" speech audio
or
Here
GolfRomeo wrote:
by the way, does anyone have a link to MLK's speech without the music?
Whoops, I just realized, you probably wanted the AUDIO, not the text....sorry.
GolfRomeo wrote:
by the way, does anyone have a link to MLK's speech without the music?
https://www.mecca.org/~crights/dream.html
Also, the cut with Jeff Beck on it is incredible....
by the way, does anyone have a link to MLK's speech without the music?
Mikec445 wrote:
A really, really good CD. The song is one of three versions of the Vangelis song, including a great version by Chrissie Hind. The CD I've had for years and still gets played more than most. This song is not the strongest cut, but the speech makes it happen.
Agreed. I ALSO agree with those who say the speech is powerful without the music. I, personally think that the speech is wonderful with OR without music. This whole CD gives me chills anyway...
This soundtrack doesn't need a speech.
Bill: nice swing from the Cure (Wild Moodswings) into a tune by Moodswings. It wasn't lost on me, man!
brighthue wrote:
This Buddhist rates SHp3 "godlike." Couldn't find an emoticon for . 
:goodvibes: 
Same here, BH. Johray63 wrote: :goodvibes: Without the music and in it's original context, it has much more impact, IMO.
You may be right, ray, which could explain why my favorite movies are documentaries. But until we have Radio Stations dedicated to history's most compelling speaches, this may as close as we get.
Without the music and in it's original context, it has much more impact, IMO.
Rather arrogant to assume whatever sort of music would add something to such an historically important and mind-blowing speech, that can perfectly stand on its own. Mm, on second thought, maybe a negro spiritual by a gospel choir...... 
A really, really good CD. The song is one of three versions of the Vangelis song, including a great version by Chrissie Hind. The CD I've had for years and still gets played more than most. This song is not the strongest cut, but the speech makes it happen.
bloated.
nolands wrote:
This speech doesn't need a soundtrack.
Precisely.
nolands wrote:
This speech doesn't need a soundtrack.
Agreed. The music isn't offensive - - just superfluous.
As music.....It doesn't really qualify as music.
As a reminder of a dark period in U.S. history and of a great man, thanks RP. It amazes me that it took great effort and sacrifice to allow black and white children play with each other!
This speech doesn't need a soundtrack.
I give the speech a 10 the song a 1...but since we're rating songs and not speeches the 1 is the only one that will register
Interesting.
OMD did better with 'Southern' off of 'Pacific Age'.
This Buddhist rates SHp3 "godlike."
Couldn't find an emoticon for .
:sunny.gif: :goodvibes.gif:
VERY powerful, and emotional. As always RP strikes a chord in me somehow! Thank you! :sunny.gif:
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
I am overwhelmed.
When my music loving friend gave me this CD and said "they've got a mix of 'I Have a Dream' and 'State of Independance'", I said, "That is the cheeziest, sappiest sounding idea I've ever heard!"
But then I listened to it and my knees buckled. I still can't listen to it without getting chills. Somehow the music actually enhances the MLK speech. Amazing piece of music.
Had mentioned noble aspirations not long ago in a comment re
Bruce Cockburn. Had to check in to see if any poor lost cynical soul was already openly sneering over this.Let's see what gets posted first.
This song is actually the Jon & Vangelis song "State of Independence", which is one of my favorite songs that Jon Anderson has written outside of YES.
I don't know why they renamed the song.....