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Richard Ashcroft — Brave New World
Album: Alone With Everybody
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Released: 2000
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Into the brave new world
I hope I see you on the other side of this changing world
Baby when my ship pulls in
I try to believe in anyone look at the state I'm in

But for now I'm just sitting at the table
Hearing songs wishing I was able, stable
Nah nah nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah nah nah
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (I hope I see you on the other side)
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (I hope I see you on the other side)

Brother don't try to find
Don't try to believe in anyone for I would change your mind
Baby when my ship pulls in
I try to believe in anyone look at the state I'm in, I'm fine

But for now I'm just sitting at the table
Hearing songs wishing I was able, stable
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (I hope I see you on the other side)
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (I hope I see you on the other side)
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (I hope I see you on the other side)
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (I hope I see you on the other side)
I hope I see you on the other side, I hope I see you on the other side
I hope I see you on the other side, I hope I see you on the other side
I hope I see you on the other side
But for now I'm just sitting at the table
Hearing songs wishing I was able, stable
Nah nah nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah nah nah
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (I hope I see you on the other side)
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (brave new world)
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (I hope I see you on the other side)
Nah nah nah nah nah nah (brave new world)
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 plaid wrote:

So Richard refuses to play any venues with COVID restrictions? I refuse to listen or pay for any more of his music.


Why?
Posted 1 year ago by unclehud    [ Reply ]
So Richard refuses to play any venues with COVID restrictions? I refuse to listen or pay for any more of his music.
Posted 3 years ago by plaid    [ Reply ]
 Synth80s wrote:

For any Verve fans that miss their grand heights (count me in that group), this album is as close as your going to get. It's quite strong overall and more varied than most Verve albums as Ashcroft takes on a few styles successfully. It kind of reminds me of what Neil Finn's "One All" represents in comparison to Crowded House's "Woodface" — they come from the same place, but they're different enough to take you in a different direction.

I haven't heard great things about Ashcroft's follow-up albums, and the sound snippets I've heard were OK, but not great. I think I'll stick with this one. Come to think of it, I need to pull it out and play it soon. Glad to hear that this is still on RP's playlist. 




Agree. first solo album (this one) is the strongest. The 2nd has a few good ones but quality dropped off after. Too bad the Verve reunion didn't last.
Posted 3 years ago by phlattop    [ Reply ]
I think it's a triangle going on all the way through, but it just sounds like my tinnitus is playing up.  Good album, though.
Posted 5 years ago by DaidyBoy    [ Reply ]
This is a good one to send off Anthony Bourdain with/by. 
Posted 6 years ago by Grayson    [ Reply ]
I never get tired of this album and this track is one of the best on the album.
Posted 6 years ago by Michaeljcovel    [ Reply ]
:)  Love reading comments... and, can't help but notice the pattern... lol.

Today is March 14th 2018...switched out Gomez for Sam & Dave (Soul Man)
and then: back to our regular programming!  ;)
Bruce Cockburn - Great big love
Richard Ashcroft - Brave new world
Steve Miller Band - Journey From Eden

LOVE IT!  always good music!!!  123K
{#Notworthy}
Posted 6 years ago by GoodKarm    [ Reply ]
Always thought this was Travis. Good stuff.
Posted 7 years ago by Hogtownmike    [ Reply ]
Timeless:
I hope I see you on the other side,
Seen a lot of things in the world outside
Posted 7 years ago by twoplain2sea    [ Reply ]
 CHuLoYo wrote:
Today the pattern is:
Gomez - Rhythm & blues alibi
Bruce Cockburn - Great big love
Richard Ashcroft - Brave new world
Steve Miller Band - Journey From Eden

Is a patter repeated along years, but is normal.

 
Pattern repeated on Oct 17th, 2016.. But it's all good. . 
Posted 8 years ago by kicking    [ Reply ]
For any Verve fans that miss their grand heights (count me in that group), this album is as close as your going to get. It's quite strong overall and more varied than most Verve albums as Ashcroft takes on a few styles successfully. It kind of reminds me of what Neil Finn's "One All" represents in comparison to Crowded House's "Woodface" — they come from the same place, but they're different enough to take you in a different direction.

I haven't heard great things about Ashcroft's follow-up albums, and the sound snippets I've heard were OK, but not great. I think I'll stick with this one. Come to think of it, I need to pull it out and play it soon. Glad to hear that this is still on RP's playlist. 
Posted 8 years ago by Synth80s    [ Reply ]
Rush of great memories from this one...thanks!
Posted 8 years ago by Charlatan_i    [ Reply ]
 norvell wrote:
More Richard Ashcroft, Please!!!!!

 
Agree!
Posted 9 years ago by Akso    [ Reply ]
Today the pattern is:
Gomez - Rhythm & blues alibi
Bruce Cockburn - Great big love
Richard Ashcroft - Brave new world
Steve Miller Band - Journey From Eden

Is a patter repeated along years, but is normal.
Posted 9 years ago by CHuLoYo    [ Reply ]
 debbiedo-dah wrote:
 greyfin10 wrote:

I'm sensing a pattern here... I questioned the origin of your comment on the Bruce Cockburn song (Great Big Love) which originally preceded this... so this is an ongong meta-thread for you of some sort... stream of conciousness quasi comments?  I'm less intrigued than I was one song ago... let's see what sort of fun accompanies the next song shall we?

Im sensing a pattern too,  Above comment Feb 08, 2009.  BC's Great Big Love and then Richard Ashcroft's Brave New World played back to back May 11, 2011...hmmmm
 
And again......
Posted 10 years ago by MrsTom    [ Reply ]
This song creates such a lush, mellow, sad vibe. That B minor chord ("but for now....") comes just at the right time to create the mood.

Great guitar bubbling just under the surface. And the tambourine in the chorus. Perfect!
Posted 10 years ago by Stratocaster    [ Reply ]
 linz_bobinz wrote:

I second that.

 
I third that{#Daisy}
Posted 11 years ago by paradisepig    [ Reply ]
 lily34 wrote:

i'm with you. love his voice. miss the verve.
 
I second that.
Posted 11 years ago by linz_bobinz    [ Reply ]

I'm hearing something vintage here... like it could be from now or the 70s.  Seals & Crofts, anyone?
(No, that's not a slam.)
Posted 11 years ago by bc    [ Reply ]
 ndad47 wrote:
you and your brave new world. come to my place and get a good gander at my little corner of this porta potty planet

 



Lol!
Posted 11 years ago by linz_bobinz    [ Reply ]
 Frater_Kork wrote:
Before I looked I thought it was something by Turin Brakes.
 

Me too—immediately.
Posted 11 years ago by Rafter101    [ Reply ]
More Richard Ashcroft, Please!!!!!
Posted 11 years ago by norvell    [ Reply ]
 coding_to_music wrote:
Dude can sing

Production & orchestration makes such a difference too
 
i'm with you. love his voice. miss the verve.
Posted 12 years ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
This song just keeps growing on me!
Posted 12 years ago by jhorton    [ Reply ]
 jagdriver wrote:
This is a lot better than some of the borderline tunes on RP (Gary Junes and Elliott Smith immediately come to mind), so I think it's a keeper for now. And yeah, it's derivative, but there are VERY few tunes out there anywhere that aren't in some way, shape or form. Who cares? If it sounds pleasant and there's some sort of instrumental hook somewhere, then it works for me!
 
I think I mighta said this before here on RP on someones post, but it's still true, I think:  Can you tell me ANYTHING in music, or any art, or any form of human expression, that is NOT derivative, in some way?


Posted 12 years ago by philbertr    [ Reply ]
 jagdriver wrote:
This is a lot better than some of the borderline tunes on RP (Gary Junes and Elliott Smith immediately come to mind), so I think it's a keeper for now. And yeah, it's derivative, but there are VERY few tunes out there anywhere that aren't in some way, shape or form. Who cares? If it sounds pleasant and there's some sort of instrumental hook somewhere, then it works for me!
 
Well put.   westslope from the home of BC Bud.  A mixed blessing if there ever was such a thing.

Posted 12 years ago by westslope    [ Reply ]
Nice!
Posted 12 years ago by helgigermany    [ Reply ]
Dude can sing

Production & orchestration makes such a difference too
Posted 13 years ago by coding_to_music    [ Reply ]
 greyfin10 wrote:

I'm sensing a pattern here... I questioned the origin of your comment on the Bruce Cockburn song (Great Big Love) which originally preceded this... so this is an ongong meta-thread for you of some sort... stream of conciousness quasi comments?  I'm less intrigued than I was one song ago... let's see what sort of fun accompanies the next song shall we?

Im sensing a pattern too,  Above comment Feb 08, 2009.  BC's Great Big Love and then Richard Ashcroft's Brave New World played back to back May 11, 2011...hmmmm
Posted 13 years ago by debbiedo-dah    [ Reply ]
Before I looked I thought it was something by Turin Brakes.
Posted 13 years ago by Frater_Kork    [ Reply ]
 jagdriver wrote:
This is a lot better than some of the borderline tunes on RP (Gary Junes and Elliott Smith immediately come to mind), so I think it's a keeper for now. And yeah, it's derivative, but there are VERY few tunes out there anywhere that aren't in some way, shape or form. Who cares? If it sounds pleasant and there's some sort of instrumental hook somewhere, then it works for me!
 

Elliott Smith "borderline"?

I really encourage you to listen to some more.
Posted 13 years ago by roulleau    [ Reply ]
sends chills up me.....
Posted 14 years ago by duchamp    [ Reply ]
I love this entire album. It came out during one of the pivotal stages in my life. Too bad his subsequent albums were not nearly as good.
Posted 14 years ago by thaidirect    [ Reply ]
Nicely crafted.
Posted 14 years ago by nigelr    [ Reply ]
This is a lot better than some of the borderline tunes on RP (Gary Junes and Elliott Smith immediately come to mind), so I think it's a keeper for now. And yeah, it's derivative, but there are VERY few tunes out there anywhere that aren't in some way, shape or form. Who cares? If it sounds pleasant and there's some sort of instrumental hook somewhere, then it works for me!
Posted 15 years ago by jagdriver    [ Reply ]
I love it!
Posted 15 years ago by helgigermany    [ Reply ]
 Tim_in_N_FL wrote:
Wild, Wild, Horses...
 
...couldn't rescue this from mediocrity.{#Eh}
Posted 15 years ago by crockydile    [ Reply ]
Wild, Wild, Horses...
Posted 15 years ago by Tim_in_N_FL    [ Reply ]

I'm sensing a pattern here... I questioned the origin of your comment on the Bruce Cockburn song (Great Big Love) which originally preceded this... so this is an ongong meta-thread for you of some sort... stream of conciousness quasi comments?  I'm less intrigued than I was one song ago... let's see what sort of fun accompanies the next song shall we?

Edit: Apparently Calexico didn't do anything for you... however, tracing back... The  Vines (Take Me Back) and Talking Heads (Psycho Killer) did.  So this is a hit or miss, as it occurs to you thing, as opposed to a project you have undertaken.  Somehow that's reassuring to me... actually something I could see myself doing on a lazy Saturday afternoon (lazy Sunday afternoon as I write this).  Cheers to you five months ago...

 ndad47 wrote:
you and your brave new world. come to my place and get a good gander at my little corner of this porta potty planet

 

Posted 15 years ago by greyfin10    [ Reply ]
this album would have been much more widely accepted without comparisons to Urban Hymns..  I mean, not even another Verve album could live up to the enormous production of urban hymns..  speaking of which, anyone heard their new album yet?  The verve is back.. check them out..  definitely a few awesome songs on it.
Posted 15 years ago by i4niblind    [ Reply ]
you and your brave new world. come to my place and get a good gander at my little corner of this porta potty planet

Posted 16 years ago by ndad47    [ Reply ]
TonyBear wrote:
I think he should form a duo with his brother Malcolm
A trio with John!
Posted 16 years ago by jenseda    [ Reply ]
It's just not the same...
Posted 16 years ago by EssexTex    [ Reply ]
Yeah, it's pretty mainstream urban. Not bad, though.
Posted 17 years ago by rbigelo    [ Reply ]
Well this is simply tedious.
Posted 17 years ago by superfido    [ Reply ]
I am still sad The Verve broke apart just at the time when I first discovered their music. This Amazon.com reviewer puts it in good perspective though -
Everybody and their mother will compare Alone With Everybody with Urban Hymns. Why waste your time and energy? Just buy Alone... and listen with fresh open ears. Alone.. sounds like a continuation of Urban Hymns but better. Alone.. sounds more focused. Ashcroft is playing most of the instruments on this album, or at least he's credited with doing so, so it obviously sounds a lot more focused coming from one point of view. As good as Urban Hymns was though, I got really sick of it after a while. There was an air of pretentiousness I think, surrounding the songs on that album. Don't get me wrong, I loved Urban Hymns. The album just dragged on and on for me. With Alone.., things flow a lot better. The album as a whole seems more humble and down to earth. And Ashcroft sounds like he really cares about how we listen to the songs. The production on the album is tremendous, the intense layering of sounds and vocals. The orchestral sounds, no doubt influenced by Ashcroft's Spiritualized wife, adds to the classic sounds of Alone.... When I say 'classic,' I mean Beatles classic. Here's a good way to look at it: the Verve's Urban Hymns was like the Beatles' Abbey Road. Ashcroft's Alone with Everybody is like Lennon's Imagine. From Amazon.com
Posted 18 years ago by Steven_G    [ Reply ]
I think he should form a duo with his brother Malcolm
Posted 18 years ago by TonyBear    [ Reply ]
Ashcroft needs Mr. McCabe.
Posted 18 years ago by Rickvee    [ Reply ]
fncll wrote:
I miss The Verve-- Ashcroft needs some balance...
Darlington wrote:
I agree. I listened to "Urban Hymns" on the way to work this morning and thought the same thing. On that CD it is easy to contrast Ashcroft's (for lack of a better word) "pop sensibilities" with the more dreamy, experimental stuff of the guitarist (McCabe?).
I agree as well, although I do like this one.
Posted 18 years ago by kazuma    [ Reply ]
OUCH! My Winamp is goin' all goofy... Anyone else?
Posted 19 years ago by trekhead    [ Reply ]
If you haven't seeing "A song for the lovers" video, go do it. You can do it in his website. Cheers
Posted 19 years ago by paloeguevo    [ Reply ]
derivative as can be, but sounds ok.
Posted 19 years ago by thewiseking    [ Reply ]
fncll wrote:
I miss The Verve-- Ashcroft needs some balance...
I agree. I listened to "Urban Hymns" on the way to work this morning and thought the same thing. On that CD it is easy to contrast Ashcroft's (for lack of a better word) "pop sensibilities" with the more dreamy, experimental stuff of the guitarist (McCabe?). Its very easy to pinpoint the songs on that disc written by Ashcroft and those written by McCabe (0r credited to The Verve) without having to look at the CD booklet. There are numerous highs on both of the Ashcroft solo CD's I have, but I don't listen to them nearly as much as I listen to my Verve discs.
Posted 19 years ago by Darlington    [ Reply ]
I miss The Verve-- Ashcroft needs some balance...
Posted 19 years ago by fncll    [ Reply ]
His last name creeps me out. I know. Makes no sense, it's not fair. But there it is.
Posted 19 years ago by Mangoman    [ Reply ]
An excellent song from an excellent album. His albums have a solid vibe, one song floats into the next. Perfect for daydreaming away when you're in a particular kind of mood...the kind of mood I'm in right now.
Posted 19 years ago by Laniel    [ Reply ]
physicsgenius wrote:
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Good men going to their happy place and letting it go have the same effect.
Fine. Now please go to your unhappy place.
Posted 19 years ago by veegez    [ Reply ]
edechewe wrote:
gosh, I really like this song. Nice and dreamy.
Dreamy is right... <- falls asleep
Posted 19 years ago by Filofox    [ Reply ]
UncleSlayton wrote:
Just breath slowly … go to your happy place … and let it go. :D
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Good men going to their happy place and letting it go have the same effect.
Posted 19 years ago by physicsgenius    [ Reply ]
This will never get old for me: Dead governor wins Missouri Senate seat Associated Press Last Updated: Nov. 8, 2000 Election 2000 St. Louis - Missourians elected a dead man to the Senate on Tuesday, choosing Gov. Mel Carnahan - who perished three weeks ago in a plane crash - over Republican incumbent John Ashcroft. Carnahan's widow had agreed to take her husband's place.
Posted 19 years ago by rascal420    [ Reply ]
edechewe wrote:
gosh, I really like this song. Nice and dreamy.
Yeah...I think so, too!
Posted 19 years ago by shakitten    [ Reply ]
gosh, I really like this song. Nice and dreamy.
Posted 19 years ago by edechewe    [ Reply ]
As long as I don't have to hear this on the otherside.
Posted 19 years ago by ryuujin23    [ Reply ]
stepped out for a coffee with "nya-nya-nya-nyaaaa...." fading into the background - just got back, coffee in hand hearing "nya-nya-nya-nyaaaaaa" Shutitupjustshutupshutup!
Posted 19 years ago by DisplacedNorthrnr    [ Reply ]
Posted 19 years ago by Veritas    [ Reply ]
Not a bad song. I might want to get this as I was/am a huge Verve fan but does any of the album rock? An entire album of this would get very old very quickly.
Posted 19 years ago by Rickvee    [ Reply ]
jberko wrote:
Sounds alot like The Verve... nice.
used to be lead singer with them, that's why .. should never have left, as this is just 'sub'
Posted 19 years ago by tony99    [ Reply ]
shaddap already, Rich
Posted 19 years ago by tony99    [ Reply ]
Darlington wrote:
It's not bad, certainly not up to the standards that Ashcroft set for himself with the last couple of Verve albums.
Delete the first 'not' in the above and there we are.
Posted 19 years ago by david_d    [ Reply ]
This sounds like music that would be tacked on at the end of a movie that I didn't understand.
Posted 19 years ago by rascal420    [ Reply ]
OK, I just picked up Human Conditions. Fantastic album, I'd say on par with his first. I see RP has rejected "Buy It In Bottles" and "Science Of Silence", but if you get a hold of the CD be sure to give those tracks a listen. Great stuff.
Posted 19 years ago by Schmackdown    [ Reply ]
Look on the bright side, at least his name isn't Santorum. good song :)
Posted 19 years ago by martialis    [ Reply ]
What was the question again?
Posted 19 years ago by radiojunkie    [ Reply ]
This is a good track from a great album- I'm surprised more songs from Alone didn't make the RP cut. "On A Beach" has some great vocal layering towards the end of it, and "Slow Was My Heart" stretch-meanders well.
Posted 19 years ago by Schmackdown    [ Reply ]
Just to clarify the "Did Ashcroft Lose to a Dead Guy" debate... Yes, he did. When Carnahan died it was too late to change the ballot, so his name was going to appear on it. According to the Missouri Constitution, if a Senator is elected, but passes away before he is able to take office, the acting governor appoints someone to fill the seat until a special election can be held. Since Carnahan was also the Governor of Missouri at the time, the Lt. Governor, Roger Wilson, announced that, should Mel Carnahan win, he would appoint the late governor's wife, Jean Carnahan as the interim senator. The campaign continued with Jean Carnahan as the acting candidate. The point of this is though, that Mel Carnahan's name was on the ballot, and he won. So, John Ashcroft did, indeed, lose to a dead guy.
Posted 19 years ago by zaknafein    [ Reply ]
so dammed good!
Posted 19 years ago by coding_to_music    [ Reply ]
Just breath slowly … go to your happy place … and let it go. :D physicsgenius wrote:
You are right that this discussion doesn't belong here, but I hardly think that the destruction of the US Constitution is "partisan bickering". Just today we have, for the first time in history, the US government arguing that a US citizen can remain in jail indefinitely based on secret evidence. Nothing partisan about it, that's just plain wrong.
Posted 19 years ago by UncleSlayton    [ Reply ]
physicsgenius wrote:
You are right that this discussion doesn't belong here, but I hardly think that the destruction of the US Constitution is "partisan bickering". Just today we have, for the first time in history, the US government arguing that a US citizen can remain in jail indefinitely based on secret evidence. Nothing partisan about it, that's just plain wrong.
no need to fix that post.
Posted 19 years ago by stickittotheman    [ Reply ]
jberko wrote:
Sounds alot like The Verve... nice.
ashcroft was the lead singer in the verve, this is his solo effort
Posted 19 years ago by stickittotheman    [ Reply ]
Mugro wrote:
this song is dreary. Are you guys really arguing politics on this thread just because the guy's last name is Ashcroft? Where will the partisan bickering end? Stop it already!
You are right that this discussion doesn't belong here, but I hardly think that the destruction of the US Constitution is "partisan bickering". Just today we have, for the first time in history, the US government arguing that a US citizen can remain in jail indefinitely based on secret evidence. Nothing partisan about it, that's just plain wrong.
Posted 19 years ago by physicsgenius    [ Reply ]
jberko wrote:
Sounds alot like The Verve... nice.
yup, good stuff.
Posted 19 years ago by sherp    [ Reply ]
Mugro wrote:
this song is dreary. Are you guys really arguing politics on this thread just because the guy's last name is Ashcroft? Where will the partisan bickering end? Stop it already!
Well, for what it's worth, the original post was in reaction to something that was said "on air" after this played. I don't recall what the comment was, now.
Posted 19 years ago by dwhayslett    [ Reply ]
Mugro wrote:
this song is dreary. Are you guys really arguing politics on this thread just because the guy's last name is Ashcroft? Where will the partisan bickering end? Stop it already!
Yeah, you'd be surprised at the tangents some of these take... (Don't get me started on Tori!) I hope RA's ratings are not effected poorly, he deserves respect.
Posted 19 years ago by trekhead    [ Reply ]
I should pay closer attention - I never looked at the title til today. Always thought this was a dull Tom Petty song...
Posted 19 years ago by pdhski    [ Reply ]
this song is dreary. Are you guys really arguing politics on this thread just because the guy's last name is Ashcroft? Where will the partisan bickering end? Stop it already!
Posted 19 years ago by Mugro    [ Reply ]
Sounds alot like The Verve... nice.
Posted 19 years ago by jberko    [ Reply ]
Wow...where has this song been and why haven't I noticed it? It's just plain great, relaxing listening! :goodvibes.gif: Great harmonies...kinda Jeff Tweedy/Ryan Adams-like vocals...excellent.
Posted 19 years ago by Alexandra    [ Reply ]
cool stuff. may have to add this album to the wishlist.
Posted 19 years ago by Platypus    [ Reply ]
Bought this album used a few months ago. It's not bad, certainly not up to the standards that Ashcroft set for himself with the last couple of Verve albums. It's more of a hit or miss affair than those, especially "Urban Hymns." Still, not a bad disc at all.
Posted 19 years ago by Darlington    [ Reply ]
lotus_65 wrote:
really 8)
I totally agree; it's a groove, a jam, a great tune!
Posted 19 years ago by oxford_john    [ Reply ]
Angloray wrote:
hmm, looks like someone might have fallen for a couple spoon-fed viewpoints himself...
Maybe; it's hard to be certain from your post. But, if you have, I'll try not to hold it against you...
Posted 19 years ago by dwhayslett    [ Reply ]
Another artist stealing from shakespeare, which is fine, it's a tradition, but it's written like he didn't know he'd done that - which is a little boring. Borrowed from a book that stole from good ol' Willy too but at least the book knew what it was doing.
Posted 19 years ago by fitz368    [ Reply ]
really 8)
Posted 19 years ago by lotus_65    [ Reply ]
Your a funny guy. Apparently you haven't watched fox news lately. Fact is there are far more sheeple on the right than on the left. We have micheal moore. You have fox news, abc, nbc (a GE subsidiary), the heritage foundation, and about a hundred other rigtht wing think tanks. Bottom line there is a lot more misinformation coming out of the right wing media, than the left wing media. Probably why 60 percent of republicants still believe in a saddham/al queda connection. Speaking of acrobat leaps in logic, are these the same kind of acrobatic leaps in logic that urge one to believe in trickle down theory? Im just glad ashcroft is gone, oh wait, he's probably gonna be replaced by the torture memo guy. Well so much for civil liberties. Oh yeah, the verve rocks. quote="CaptTofu wrote:
Geesh Bill, You just gotta let your politics be known. I didn't donate to this site to be annoyed. I have political blogs for that. I just really want to hear music, which is why I donated. But while we're at it: So, about 'Ashcroft Losing to a dead guy' claim in F911 (which I saw a couple days ago) is a total omission of some pertinent facts, and is on face value not true. John Ashcroft DID NOT lose in Missouri to a dead guy. He lost to Jean Carnahan, the dead guy's wife, who won that VERY close race, after her husband died, having taken his place in the election, and won possibly due to the race being tipped in her favor due to the sympathy vote. But of course most of the sheeple and other Moore-ons won't care about the facts because it's much easier to be spoon-fed viewpoints and misrepresentations of the truth, and even acrobatic leaps in logic that coincide with their political views. https://www.bowlingfortruth.com https://www.moorewatch.com/
Posted 19 years ago by kevbo77    [ Reply ]
CaptTofu wrote:
He lost to Jean Carnahan, the dead guy's wife, who won that VERY close race, after her husband died, having taken his place in the election, and won possibly due to the race being tipped in her favor due to the sympathy vote.
Apparentyly he DID lose to the dead guy. But even if she WAS voted in on election day, I think it pretty presumptuous to call it a sympthy vote, and assume that the people of Missouri didn't decide that an unknown was better than this tool.
Posted 20 years ago by bc    [ Reply ]
dwhayslett wrote:
CNN would beg to disagree. https://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/07/senate.missouri/ Jean Carnahan was appointed *after* Ashcroft lost that election. To a dead guy.
hmm, looks like someone might have fallen for a couple spoon-fed viewpoints himself...
Posted 20 years ago by Angloray    [ Reply ]
Is there a theme here? First Poor Rich Ones: Happy Happy Happy and then Brave New World. I would not be surprised if GOL: Soma Holiday followed. Keep em comin'
Posted 20 years ago by jed2667    [ Reply ]
8)
Posted 20 years ago by R_P    [ Reply ]
Just shows me that the people who voted were yellow dog Democraps, Now the term "yellow dog Democrap" can be updated to "dead guy Democrap". They deserve the dead sob to be propped up in a chair making their important decisions.
Posted 20 years ago by Rickvee    [ Reply ]
CaptTofu wrote:
He lost to Jean Carnahan, the dead guy's wife, who won that VERY close race...
Kept it close, did he? Wow. Quite a guy.
Posted 20 years ago by rgj13    [ Reply ]
CaptTofu wrote:
Geesh Bill, You just gotta let your politics be known. I didn't donate to this site to be annoyed. I have political blogs for that. I just really want to hear music, which is why I donated. But while we're at it: So, about 'Ashcroft Losing to a dead guy' claim in F911 (which I saw a couple days ago) is a total omission of some pertinent facts, and is on face value not true. John Ashcroft DID NOT lose in Missouri to a dead guy. He lost to Jean Carnahan, the dead guy's wife, who won that VERY close race, after her husband died, having taken his place in the election, and won possibly due to the race being tipped in her favor due to the sympathy vote. But of course most of the sheeple and other Moore-ons won't care about the facts because it's much easier to be spoon-fed viewpoints and misrepresentations of the truth, and even acrobatic leaps in logic that coincide with their political views. https://www.bowlingfortruth.com https://www.moorewatch.com/
some music is political. you won't agree with it all. sorry, man. nice diatribe, by the way.
Posted 20 years ago by PattonFever    [ Reply ]
LOVE ashcroft - with or without the Verve.... MORE VERVE, though - like Sonnet, Drugs Don't Work, or THIS TIME should be added to RP!!!!
Posted 20 years ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
CaptTofu wrote:
So, about 'Ashcroft Losing to a dead guy' claim in F911 (which I saw a couple days ago) is a total omission of some pertinent facts, and is on face value not true.
CNN would beg to disagree. https://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/07/senate.missouri/ Jean Carnahan was appointed *after* Ashcroft lost that election. To a dead guy.
Posted 20 years ago by dwhayslett    [ Reply ]
What a great voice!
Posted 20 years ago by drH    [ Reply ]
Thanks for bringing our attention to the lyrics, Cap'n. I just raised my rating 5 points!
Posted 20 years ago by rulebritannia    [ Reply ]
Geesh Bill, You just gotta let your politics be known. I didn't donate to this site to be annoyed. I have political blogs for that. I just really want to hear music, which is why I donated. But while we're at it: So, about 'Ashcroft Losing to a dead guy' claim in F911 (which I saw a couple days ago) is a total omission of some pertinent facts, and is on face value not true. John Ashcroft DID NOT lose in Missouri to a dead guy. He lost to Jean Carnahan, the dead guy's wife, who won that VERY close race, after her husband died, having taken his place in the election, and won possibly due to the race being tipped in her favor due to the sympathy vote. But of course most of the sheeple and other Moore-ons won't care about the facts because it's much easier to be spoon-fed viewpoints and misrepresentations of the truth, and even acrobatic leaps in logic that coincide with their political views. https://www.bowlingfortruth.com https://www.moorewatch.com/
Posted 20 years ago by CaptTofu    [ Reply ]