Cannonball Adderley — Somethin' Else
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Zep wrote:
I Agree!!
Hank Jones, piano,
Sam Jones, bass.
Pure 10-ness.
I Agree!!
burdell wrote:
Actually, I think they voted a 9 or 10 because it's of the highest quality for its genre. If you don't understand it, that's okay. I didn't understand dance until my daughter became a dancer, either, but now I kinda get it. I used to think most jazz was just random noodling, but as I've become more educated I can begin to tell the difference between meh and wow.
Jazz as an art is quite ineffective if you don't recognize the underlying tune they are riffing off of. Then it's simply boring IMO
I think most people vote this a 9 or 10 because they think they're supposed to.
I think most people vote this a 9 or 10 because they think they're supposed to.
Actually, I think they voted a 9 or 10 because it's of the highest quality for its genre. If you don't understand it, that's okay. I didn't understand dance until my daughter became a dancer, either, but now I kinda get it. I used to think most jazz was just random noodling, but as I've become more educated I can begin to tell the difference between meh and wow.
Tuneless noise
Hank Jones, piano,
Sam Jones, bass.
Pure 10-ness.
Sam Jones, bass.
Pure 10-ness.
When does the tune start?
more please! jazz just takes me away.............................
Right to 10!
This is my favorite Miles Davis album that is not a Miles Davis album
this is good
MatClarke wrote:
"Kilometres" has a ring to it too, but not as far...
I named one of my kids after Miles.
"Kilometres" has a ring to it too, but not as far...
Sam_Hill wrote:
You need a new girlfriend.
OMG this is better than sex.
You need a new girlfriend.
btw this lineup is pretty much an all-star cast
You can tell Blakey just wants to cut loose here any second and Cannonball telling him "Be cool man."
You can tell Blakey just wants to cut loose here any second and Cannonball telling him "Be cool man."
OMG this is better than sex.
kingart wrote:
Agreed (err...once I go 8 to 9 on this one) - and.....Long Live RP!!
Two exalted 9s in a row, genre worlds apart and extraordinary in their own ways.
Agreed (err...once I go 8 to 9 on this one) - and.....Long Live RP!!
Mmmmmmm. Thank you. More like this.
Two exalted 9s in a row, genre worlds apart and extraordinary in their own ways.
Just listen to his work on Kind of Blue.
He and Coltrane were trading/sparing rifts on that whole album.
And Miles was sitting back and letting it happen.
He and Coltrane were trading/sparing rifts on that whole album.
And Miles was sitting back and letting it happen.
Otomi wrote:
Excellent observation from Mr. Marsalis.
"When an art form is created, the question is how do you come to it, not how does it come to you. Like Beethoven's music is not going to come to you, or the art of Picasso won't come to you, Shakespeare won't come to you, you got to come to it. And when you go to it, you get the benefits of it."
- Wynton Marsalis, on Ken Burns's documentary Jazz (episode 8, "Risk", around minute 17)
Source: https://hubpages.com/hub/Sincerity
- Wynton Marsalis, on Ken Burns's documentary Jazz (episode 8, "Risk", around minute 17)
Source: https://hubpages.com/hub/Sincerity
Excellent observation from Mr. Marsalis.
musicforme wrote:
Ha. An attempt at irony. But you have the power to flip the channel. Peculiar Silly Discomfort. Perhaps the problem with stuckness is your ears.
Please play Something Else as this seems to have got stuck stuck stuck
Ha. An attempt at irony. But you have the power to flip the channel. Peculiar Silly Discomfort. Perhaps the problem with stuckness is your ears.
nigelr wrote:
Hank Jones
Who is playing the piano? Quite extraordinary, as to be expected........
Hank Jones
A revelation. Never heard it before. Wow. Like wow man.
Please play Something Else as this seems to have got stuck stuck stuck
burdell
(Atlanta, GA) wrote:
"I think most people vote this a 9 or 10 because they think they're supposed to"
No, Sweatheart, some People vote 9 or 10 because they like it! It IS GREAT MUSIC! No for everybody, but for some!
burdell wrote:
Not concurring. Quite ineffective? It's the one, singular, American-bred art form. I bumped this up because it's is passionate, free flowing, melodic musicianship of a high caliber. I don't care about the underlying tune, and you shouldn't either. Jazz dudes are in the moment as much or more than any musician. I'm not supposed to do anything except be in the moment with them, if they cut it with the roar and the riff, I applaud.
Jazz as an art is quite ineffective if you don't recognize the underlying tune they are riffing off of. Then it's simply boring IMO
I think most people vote this a 9 or 10 because they think they're supposed to.
I think most people vote this a 9 or 10 because they think they're supposed to.
Not concurring. Quite ineffective? It's the one, singular, American-bred art form. I bumped this up because it's is passionate, free flowing, melodic musicianship of a high caliber. I don't care about the underlying tune, and you shouldn't either. Jazz dudes are in the moment as much or more than any musician. I'm not supposed to do anything except be in the moment with them, if they cut it with the roar and the riff, I applaud.
Absolutely smokin'. 8 > 9
"Somethin' Else" on the wonderful RP! Just great , mo' great jazz please Bill and Rebecca
Jazz as an art is quite ineffective if you don't recognize the underlying tune they are riffing off of. Then it's simply boring IMO
I think most people vote this a 9 or 10 because they think they're supposed to.
I think most people vote this a 9 or 10 because they think they're supposed to.
"When an art form is created, the question is how do you come to it, not how does it come to you. Like Beethoven's music is not going to come to you, or the art of Picasso won't come to you, Shakespeare won't come to you, you got to come to it. And when you go to it, you get the benefits of it."
- Wynton Marsalis, on Ken Burns's documentary Jazz (episode 8, "Risk", around minute 17)
Source: https://hubpages.com/hub/Sincerity
- Wynton Marsalis, on Ken Burns's documentary Jazz (episode 8, "Risk", around minute 17)
Source: https://hubpages.com/hub/Sincerity
hallelujah brother
murraybula wrote:
murraybula wrote:
I do not really listen to Jazz, though I don't mind it, but the main reason I like Radio paradise is that it is fairly eclectic! More eclectic please!
I do not really listen to Jazz, though I don't mind it, but the main reason I like Radio paradise is that it is fairly eclectic! More eclectic please!
What a smooth weaving of styles between Adderley and Davis. This works.
holborne wrote: Ew, do we have to hear jazz on this station? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.) I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I detest jazz. What a great thundering, thumping bore. And goes on FUCKING. FOREVER. Shut up Shup Up SHUT UP!!!
pope183 wrote:
This is not an insightful and itelligent way to explain why you don't like this song and Jazz in general and it makes your opinion less valuable. less less valuable in fact. It reminds me of a peevish 7th grader with an attitude problem that you just want to stuff a sock in their mouth to make them be quiet and stop whining. holy mercy .
Dear Pope182, I understand your response to holborne, but on the other hand, holborne's prose makes me laugh.
And just to repeat my previous posting on this number - it is wonderful!!! (I never connected to jazz until after I was 40. Why is that?)
pope183 wrote:
This is not an insightful and itelligent way to explain why you don't like this song and Jazz in general and it makes your opinion less valuable. less less valuable in fact. It reminds me of a peevish 7th grader with an attitude problem that you just want to stuff a sock in their mouth to make them be quiet and stop whining. holy mercy .
Dear Pope182, I understand your response to holborne, but on the other hand, holborne's prose makes me laugh.
And just to repeat my previous posting on this number - it is wonderful!!! (I never connected to jazz until after I was 40. Why is that?)
Yeah, man.
Who is playing the piano? Quite extraordinary, as to be expected........
RIP Hank Jones BTW.
Rotterdam wrote:
Well, not the best example of modal Jazz. But this was the 1st recording though.
Cannonball does not stick to the chords which is awesome . . . again! He plays a mean alto.
This is absolutely sublime. I am in such awe of this music and those who make it.
Well, not the best example of modal Jazz. But this was the 1st recording though.
Cannonball does not stick to the chords which is awesome . . . again! He plays a mean alto.
Both Adderley and Davis produced much better than this poor example of their collaboration (or Miles' many other partners) , imo.
Still, Thanks Bill for the variety.
Still, Thanks Bill for the variety.
Just sat down for a second from my busy day and wow, what a thrash of negative comments to jazz or those expressing themselves on how they feel about jazz! I listen to Radio Paradise because I like a VARIETY of music. I hope to tune in each time to hear familiar sounds and new ones. I think it is good that people express what they like or dislike yet I would hope that people can try to be respectful and polite in doing so. We are all tuning in, radio family you could say, so lets hear one another and express what we want without trying to friggin personally attack others.Peace,
Thankful listener
Ahhh...the sound and smells of Panera Bread are alive again!! I sure could go for a panini sandwhich right about now!
That was fantastic.
Given the last few tunes I can imagine being in a smoky bar with staff dressed in tuxes and sipping a good scotch or martini. 
Reminds me of Christmas time at Starbucks... *dorky smile*
Did someone mix up the music sheets?
nudge me when it is over and they start playing music again
Oh my god...I can't stand this a single minute longer...I have to switch the chann
Please make it stop...
Finger snappin, head boppin, struttin music.
Yess jazz and trumpet I like that mix,even if I prefer the rock!
pope183 wrote:
This is not an insightful and itelligent way to explain why you don't like this song and Jazz in general and it makes your opinion less valuable. less less valuable in fact. It reminds me of a peevish 7th grader with an attitude problem that you just want to stuff a sock in their mouth to make them be quiet and stop whining. holy mercy .
This is absolutely sublime. I am in such awe of this music and those who make it.
rdo wrote:
You're not alone. Jazz puts me in a bad mood.
For those who preach the eclectic thing: I am all in favor of that, more than you'll ever know. It's a little rude to presume that just because someone doesn't like Jazz, then they are close-minded. I have tried many times, but I have never connected to a Jazz piece. Besides, this station is not all that eclectic. There is no Rap, for instance. I don't buy, not in a million years, the notion that all rap is bad and does not deserve air time. I just think the RP community (myself included) does not care much for rap. Maybe Jazz should be treated like Rap. (wishful thinking)
This is an insightful and itelligent way to explain why you don't like this song and Jazz in general and while i disagree with you , it also makes your opinions more valuable to me.
You're not alone. Jazz puts me in a bad mood.
For those who preach the eclectic thing: I am all in favor of that, more than you'll ever know. It's a little rude to presume that just because someone doesn't like Jazz, then they are close-minded. I have tried many times, but I have never connected to a Jazz piece. Besides, this station is not all that eclectic. There is no Rap, for instance. I don't buy, not in a million years, the notion that all rap is bad and does not deserve air time. I just think the RP community (myself included) does not care much for rap. Maybe Jazz should be treated like Rap. (wishful thinking)
This is an insightful and itelligent way to explain why you don't like this song and Jazz in general and while i disagree with you , it also makes your opinions more valuable to me.
holborne wrote:
This is not an insightful and itelligent way to explain why you don't like this song and Jazz in general and it makes your opinion less valuable. less less valuable in fact. It reminds me of a peevish 7th grader with an attitude problem that you just want to stuff a sock in their mouth to make them be quiet and stop whining. holy mercy .
Ew, do we have to hear jazz on this station? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.) I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I detest jazz. What a great thundering, thumping bore. And goes on FUCKING. FOREVER. Shut up Shup Up SHUT UP!!!
This is not an insightful and itelligent way to explain why you don't like this song and Jazz in general and it makes your opinion less valuable. less less valuable in fact. It reminds me of a peevish 7th grader with an attitude problem that you just want to stuff a sock in their mouth to make them be quiet and stop whining. holy mercy .
rdo wrote:
You're not alone. Jazz puts me in a bad mood.
For those who preach the eclectic thing: I am all in favor of that, more than you'll ever know. It's a little rude to presume that just because someone doesn't like Jazz, then they are close-minded. I have tried many times, but I have never connected to a Jazz piece. Besides, this station is not all that eclectic. There is no Rap, for instance. I don't buy, not in a million years, the notion that all rap is bad and does not deserve air time. I just think the RP community (myself included) does not care much for rap. Maybe Jazz should be treated like Rap. (wishful thinking)
That is an honest and perceptive statement, unlike some of the others in this thread. I happen to like jazz, particularly from this era, but I know a lot of people who dislike it and I do not consider them to be close-minded. I think I began to enjoy jazz more as I learned about things like theory, scales, & modes while learning to play music. Often, it seems that musicians are the primary audience for jazz, since there can be a "technical" appreciation, but that too, is an over-simplification and is frequently not true anyhow.
You're not alone. Jazz puts me in a bad mood.
For those who preach the eclectic thing: I am all in favor of that, more than you'll ever know. It's a little rude to presume that just because someone doesn't like Jazz, then they are close-minded. I have tried many times, but I have never connected to a Jazz piece. Besides, this station is not all that eclectic. There is no Rap, for instance. I don't buy, not in a million years, the notion that all rap is bad and does not deserve air time. I just think the RP community (myself included) does not care much for rap. Maybe Jazz should be treated like Rap. (wishful thinking)
That is an honest and perceptive statement, unlike some of the others in this thread. I happen to like jazz, particularly from this era, but I know a lot of people who dislike it and I do not consider them to be close-minded. I think I began to enjoy jazz more as I learned about things like theory, scales, & modes while learning to play music. Often, it seems that musicians are the primary audience for jazz, since there can be a "technical" appreciation, but that too, is an over-simplification and is frequently not true anyhow.
Is this classified as Bebop, Hard bop, Cool jazz or free jazz? 9 thumbs up
Hate this stuff. It's just un-melodic noise. Bunch of screeching horns. The best part is when it's over.
I note that the Jazz Bill plays is mostly pretty accessible (no late-period Coltrane, thankyouverymuch), and that every Jazz cut I've seem him spin anyway has rated a 7 or higher avg from RP listeners. I love it. Dig.
And I for one would like to hear more (intentful) rap on RP. Lots of good stuff coming from just down the hill of Paradise...East Bay, Davis, and Sac.
And I for one would like to hear more (intentful) rap on RP. Lots of good stuff coming from just down the hill of Paradise...East Bay, Davis, and Sac.
holborne wrote:
You're not alone. Jazz puts me in a bad mood.
For those who preach the eclectic thing: I am all in favor of that, more than you'll ever know. It's a little rude to presume that just because someone doesn't like Jazz, then they are close-minded. I have tried many times, but I have never connected to a Jazz piece. Besides, this station is not all that eclectic. There is no Rap, for instance. I don't buy, not in a million years, the notion that all rap is bad and does not deserve air time. I just think the RP community (myself included) does not care much for rap. Maybe Jazz should be treated like Rap. (wishful thinking)
Ew, do we have to hear jazz on this station? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.) I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I detest jazz. What a great thundering, thumping bore. And goes on FUCKING. FOREVER. Shut up Shup Up SHUT UP!!!
You're not alone. Jazz puts me in a bad mood.
For those who preach the eclectic thing: I am all in favor of that, more than you'll ever know. It's a little rude to presume that just because someone doesn't like Jazz, then they are close-minded. I have tried many times, but I have never connected to a Jazz piece. Besides, this station is not all that eclectic. There is no Rap, for instance. I don't buy, not in a million years, the notion that all rap is bad and does not deserve air time. I just think the RP community (myself included) does not care much for rap. Maybe Jazz should be treated like Rap. (wishful thinking)
I was working a contract job in Raleigh, NC, a few years back, and decided to stop in a local music store while up there to see if I could find any deals. I came across this CD, and decided to pick it up on a whim; I had been meaning to try to expand my knowledge of jazz somewhat, and I had heard of all of the guys on the CD, so I decided to pick it up. Needless to say, I was pleasantly surprised. Good release by some extremely talented musicians.
The best part? The CD was around $4.
The best part? The CD was around $4.
wycado wrote:
Well said.
Just got to work and fired up RP. This piece of music was a good way to start the working day(ugh).
Personally, I listen to RP because of the range of music you get here. It won't hurt anyone to step out a bit and give it a listen. It's too easy to get your tastes narrow - witness all the "Classic Rock" stations with a 25-song playlist. You keep doing it like this, Bill.
Well said.
Just got to work and fired up RP. This piece of music was a good way to start the working day(ugh).
Personally, I listen to RP because of the range of music you get here. It won't hurt anyone to step out a bit and give it a listen. It's too easy to get your tastes narrow - witness all the "Classic Rock" stations with a 25-song playlist. You keep doing it like this, Bill.
bokey wrote:
You wanna shred your fingers, try keeping up with this guy:
Oh man, I was playing my guitar along with that the whole time. Thank God it ended
Man are my hands gonna be sore. I'm pretty sure every part of every finger touched every string on every fret.
Man are my hands gonna be sore. I'm pretty sure every part of every finger touched every string on every fret.
You wanna shred your fingers, try keeping up with this guy:
"You people" who rate this below a 7 or 8 need to have your friggin' heads examined! What, in the name of God and everything that is good, is WRONG with you?!
Jazz, especially this type, is a very demanding and highly involved music. It's not for everyone but if you can develop a taste for it, you're in for a treat. It can transport you to some really amazing realms.
Too many call and responds... otherwise, solid.
dunno wrote:
nice to meet someone else from this minority. count me in.
It can take time to learn to appreciate; but don't worry you'll get there.
nice to meet someone else from this minority. count me in.
It can take time to learn to appreciate; but don't worry you'll get there.
Good bad or indifferent Jazz is no reflection on RP rather it is like religion —a preference
like goose pate' or perhaps sturgeon eggs.... Ok so it sounds like the last song played
backwards ... in my world, small as it may be- — >> Bobby hates Jazz.. It does nothing for migraines !
bam23 wrote:
so what?
So what indeed? I post my comments for the same reasons everyone else here does, including you. Now, please share your brilliant pearls of wisdom with us!
so what?
So what indeed? I post my comments for the same reasons everyone else here does, including you. Now, please share your brilliant pearls of wisdom with us!
dunno wrote:
nice to meet someone else from this minority. count me in.
so what?
nice to meet someone else from this minority. count me in.
so what?
dunno wrote:
nice to meet someone else from this minority. count me in.
Eclectic- composed of elements selected from a wide range of styles, ideas, or sources.
Guys, there have to be a million internet radio stations. A bunch of us found an online musical home here.
We like our classic rock, our blues, our alt. country, our light classics, our new wave, our world music, our techno, our folk, and we like our jazz.
It ain't for everyone, and we don't want everyone to like the same things we do. That's part of socialization, and it's why Baskin-Robbins has more than 1 flavor. We don't all like the same things.
Don't go away mad, now...
nice to meet someone else from this minority. count me in.
Eclectic- composed of elements selected from a wide range of styles, ideas, or sources.
Guys, there have to be a million internet radio stations. A bunch of us found an online musical home here.
We like our classic rock, our blues, our alt. country, our light classics, our new wave, our world music, our techno, our folk, and we like our jazz.
It ain't for everyone, and we don't want everyone to like the same things we do. That's part of socialization, and it's why Baskin-Robbins has more than 1 flavor. We don't all like the same things.
Don't go away mad, now...
Enough with the jazz already. This is supposed to be Radio PARADISE, not Radio Turn Me Into a Serial Killer in a 60's B-movie.
holborne wrote:
Shut up Shup Up SHUT UP!!!
A 10, and only a 10.
bokey wrote:
Would love to have heard that!
bokey wrote:
Oh man, I was playing my guitar along with that the whole time. Thank God it ended
Man are my hands gonna be sore. I'm pretty sure every part of every finger touched every string on every fret.
Man are my hands gonna be sore. I'm pretty sure every part of every finger touched every string on every fret.
Would love to have heard that!
holborne wrote:
nice to meet someone else from this minority. count me in.
Ew, do we have to hear jazz on this station? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.) I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I detest jazz. What a great thundering, thumping bore. And goes on FUCKING. FOREVER. Shut up Shup Up SHUT UP!!!
nice to meet someone else from this minority. count me in.
Oh man, I was playing my guitar along with that the whole time. Thank God it ended
Man are my hands gonna be sore. I'm pretty sure every part of every finger touched every string on every fret.
Man are my hands gonna be sore. I'm pretty sure every part of every finger touched every string on every fret.
Is this one of those things I'm supposed to like?
Ew, do we have to hear jazz on this station? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.) I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I detest jazz. What a great thundering, thumping bore. And goes on FUCKING. FOREVER. Shut up Shup Up SHUT UP!!!
Pretty much 'other-worldly'.
That other world where bona-fide genius musicians play for there own enjoyment.........
Just relax and go along for the ride!
That other world where bona-fide genius musicians play for there own enjoyment.........
Just relax and go along for the ride!
Smokin'.
What a set... Ozzy > Zappa > Miles...
All favorites of mine.
There are only two kinds of music. Good and Bad, these guy all fall in the good! Nice work Bill.
All favorites of mine.
There are only two kinds of music. Good and Bad, these guy all fall in the good! Nice work Bill.
Sorry folks, to me this is just noise.
jagdriver wrote:
You can play Miles anytime!
WOW! Jazz on RP!
You can play Miles anytime!
I posted this in the Camarillo Brillo comment area but it bears repeating here...
Ha! Ozzy into Frank into Cannonball Adderley & Miles Davis. What a ride!
Ha! Ozzy into Frank into Cannonball Adderley & Miles Davis. What a ride!
great and i mean GREAT freakin set!
This is as old as me and has definitely aged better! Took me a long time to get Miles Davis and it was only after a lecture on post-modernism that I listened to his music with a non-traditional, open ear.
amazing performance of these talent musicians, with prominence for the trumpeter mr. Miles Davis and drummer mr. Arthur (Art) Blakey -
** 10 **
dctrpunda wrote:
I think I'm not alone in finding jazz torture because of the actual sound. Its not the structure that bothers me the most, it is the screeching of the saxophone. And the rhythm section — that extremely repetitive snare-cymbal-snare thing. This particular piece is better than most. There are elements of the structure that irk as well, but I can't put my finger on it. The blues dulled these concerns and replaced the sax with the much-more listenable electric guitar (as the most common standard lead instruments).
It's interesting folks find Jazz torture when most rock is derived from either blues or jazz. You are listening to the root of music. I mean, Pink Floyd is the combo of the name of two blues guys, Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. To think that Pink Floyd is simply a derivation of blues, wow, what an oblique angle they went to from where they started, which is exactly what Jazz is, an oblique angle of music. Is it maybe that folks simply get one angle but not others?
I think I'm not alone in finding jazz torture because of the actual sound. Its not the structure that bothers me the most, it is the screeching of the saxophone. And the rhythm section — that extremely repetitive snare-cymbal-snare thing. This particular piece is better than most. There are elements of the structure that irk as well, but I can't put my finger on it. The blues dulled these concerns and replaced the sax with the much-more listenable electric guitar (as the most common standard lead instruments).
WOW! Jazz on RP!
This one is for the adults. You kids can sit this one out. 
dctrpunda wrote:
It's interesting folks find Jazz torture when most rock is derived from either blues or jazz. You are listening to the root of music.
This kind of jazz is definitely torture for my girl. Not for everyone. Mercy, mercy, mercy 
I just couldn't resist. Anyway, good stuff.
I just couldn't resist. Anyway, good stuff.
jesspra wrote:
One of the greatest virtues of RP is it's range of musical styles. Sometimes it extends our individual range of appreciation. If everyone liked all the same things, what a boring world it would be. If this doesn't move you, there is always the mute button, or God forbid, Clear Channel Radio.
Absolutely agree! me, myself and I love all types of music, weaned on jazz and classical then progressively opened up to all types, forms, cultures from there. Just love music! And I love this!
Art Blakey was SUCH a freaking trip. And Adderly and Miles. What a band.
Utterly spectacular.
robco1 wrote: Kind Of Blue (though not the recording we're commenting on).
Isn't that Coltrain on the left?
Yes, that's John Coltrane, and that's Bill Evans at the piano. This is the very lineup of Miles's group that did Inamorato wrote: 
Adderley and Davis in the middle Isn't that Coltrain on the left?
Adderley and Davis in the middle laozilover wrote:
Cool that Bill segued here from Frank Zappa - Camarillo Brillo!
If this queues into Zappa, then it is tolerable.
But no, it queues into Traffic.
Screwed again. Oh well, just have to delve into my Zappa collection.
After Traffic, of course!
Cool that Bill segued here from Frank Zappa - Camarillo Brillo!
Adderley and Davis in the middle
It's interesting folks find Jazz torture when most rock is derived from either blues or jazz. You are listening to the root of music.
I mean, Pink Floyd is the combo of the name of two blues guys, Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. To think that Pink Floyd is simply a derivation of blues, wow, what an oblique angle they went to from where they started, which is exactly what Jazz is, an oblique angle of music.
Is it maybe that folks simply get one angle but not others?
Cool that Bill segued here from Frank Zappa - Camarillo Brillo! Flashdog wrote:
Some guys just don't get it, Its not the technical end that you concentrate on, its the groove , the feeling and the interplay between the players.
This cut is an excellent example of that.
Some guys just don't get it, Its not the technical end that you concentrate on, its the groove , the feeling and the interplay between the players.
I've heard it said that Jazz is like hearing an orchestra falling down a flight of stairs.
fredriley wrote:
For me, the thing that makes sophisto-jazz so tedious is that every blasted instrument has to be given its own solo, so for a quintet that multiplies the 'song' length by 5. This one is no exception, and for me outstays what little welcome it had in the first place.
And no, I don't 'get' jazz. I had enough sophisto-jazz inflicted on me by my Dad, who wet himself over technical virtuousity, during childhood to last a heap of lifetimes. The longer this goes on, the greater my pleasure will be when it finally ends.
Fair enough. It ain't everyone's cuppa, I'll admit. And you were beaten over the head with it, which prolly ruined it for ya no matter what.
But for those of us who DO like it, man, this is Somethin' Else. Two of the best there ever was. Were. Whatever.
c.
fredriley wrote: For me, the thing that makes sophisto-jazz so tedious is that every blasted instrument has to be given its own solo, so for a quintet that multiplies the 'song' length by 5. This one is no exception, and for me outstays what little welcome it had in the first place.
And no, I don't 'get' jazz. I had enough sophisto-jazz inflicted on me by my Dad, who wet himself over technical virtuousity, during childhood to last a heap of lifetimes. The longer this goes on, the greater my pleasure will be when it finally ends.
I could not agree more.
jesspra wrote:
One of the greatest virtues of RP is it's range of musical styles. Sometimes it extends our individual range of appreciation. If everyone liked all the same things, what a boring world it would be. If this doesn't move you, there is always the mute button, or God forbid, Clear Channel Radio.
I usually pull the headphones off, take a trip to the sandbox, get another cup of coffee, check the fax, answer the phone and put the headphones back on and oh, shit this is still on?
For me, the thing that makes sophisto-jazz so tedious is that every blasted instrument has to be given its own solo, so for a quintet that multiplies the 'song' length by 5. This one is no exception, and for me outstays what little welcome it had in the first place.
And no, I don't 'get' jazz. I had enough sophisto-jazz inflicted on me by my Dad, who wet himself over technical virtuousity, during childhood to last a heap of lifetimes. The longer this goes on, the greater my pleasure will be when it finally ends.
Frank Zappa followed by Cannonball and Miles; hey Bill: these guys are smiling down on you big time! Here too 
One of the greatest virtues of RP is it's range of musical styles. Sometimes it extends our individual range of appreciation. If everyone liked all the same things, what a boring world it would be. If this doesn't move you, there is always the mute button, or God forbid, Clear Channel Radio.
Xeric wrote:
I like jazz, to a point. Beyond that point, I hate it. Where's that point? Right were technical virtuosity becomes more the focus than melody, that's where. Quite a ways back there behind these guys. . . .
If you believe that the presence of melody is the end-all, the centerpiece of what makes great music, I'm afraid jazz just isn't your bag.
lah1975 wrote:
Re: some comments below. Miles, like martinis, is an acquired taste. I've tried for years to "get" him because I thought that I should. I've given up. He's too advanced for my year. Music should be enjoyable, if you don't enjoy it don't pretend to. If you feel like you don't enjoy Miles don't fret, you're not a bad person. He is in his own world...I feel the same about Coltrane and Parker too.
I love jazz...and martinis.
I saw Miles play at Alexander Hall at Princeton in 1973, and it was amazing. He never faced the audience. I walked out high as a kite, purely due to the music. Just amazing. I will NEVER forget it. Or him.
I like jazz, to a point. Beyond that point, I hate it. Where's that point? Right were technical virtuosity becomes more the focus than melody, that's where. Quite a ways back there behind these guys. . . .
Jazz jazz more jazz please :)
Re: some comments below. Miles, like martinis, is an acquired taste. I've tried for years to "get" him because I thought that I should. I've given up. He's too advanced for my year. Music should be enjoyable, if you don't enjoy it don't pretend to. If you feel like you don't enjoy Miles don't fret, you're not a bad person. He is in his own world...I feel the same about Coltrane and Parker too.
I love jazz...and martinis.
AlienRelic wrote:
I'm that way with opera. I know that there is a lot of good opera, written by fantastically good composers. I have friends that love it. Doesn't matter. I can't make myself like it, no matter what.
For me its Steely Dan. ;)
Miles Davis rocks my world!!
Isobel wrote:
This is torture. I wish I knew how to derive pleasure from this. I really do. It makes me want to hurt something.
Someone I know feels exactly the same way about Middle Eastern music (which I like). It incites feelings of desperate violence in him. I didn't understand what he meant, until I realized that I felt exactly the same way when certain styles of jazz were being played. I feel as if I would do anything to make it stop.
Do we all have that musical Achilles heel? Does everyone have a particular style of music that they absolutely cannot listen to? I wonder. And I wonder why.
I'm that way with opera. I know that there is a lot of good opera, written by fantastically good composers. I have friends that love it. Doesn't matter. I can't make myself like it, no matter what.
Cannonball has always been a favorite. Something about him is so "listenable", as opposed to some of his peers.
Right to 10!
I Agree!!