Listening to Redlight King on Radio Paradise

7 < 6.

You want to be credited with good music, Redlight? Make your own. Points granted for sincerity and decent lyrics. But Neil Y, Eminem, Everlast, Jurassic V, et al been there, done this.

Posted 10 years ago by kingart [ Reply ]

nmcvaugh wrote:

In their rhythmic piping, droning, rattling, and beating I felt an element of terror beyond all the known terrors of earth - a terror peculiarly dissociated from personal fear, and taking the form of a sort of objective pity for our planet, that it should hold within its depths such horrors as much lie beyond these aegipanic cacophonies.

"aegipanic"?

Posted 10 years ago by fredriley [ Reply ]

In their rhythmic piping, droning, rattling, and beating I felt an element of terror beyond all the known terrors of earth - a terror peculiarly dissociated from personal fear, and taking the form of a sort of objective pity for our planet, that it should hold within its depths such horrors as much lie beyond these aegipanic cacophonies.

Posted 10 years ago by nmcvaugh [ Reply ]

Pretty good cover, IMO. Mind you, I could never stand Neil Young's voice, for all that I seriously respect him as a musician and songwriter.

Posted 11 years ago by fredriley [ Reply ]

daveesh wrote:

i grew up listening to neil young from a very young age. this song in particular (well, neil's version) is seared into my consciousness. i think this actually is kinda cool. nothing wrong with a little experimentation using two diametrically opposed styles of music.

Agreed

Posted 11 years ago by Krispian [ Reply ]

sbegf wrote:

If the average length of a song is around 4 minutes, then he can get 360 songs a day in and 2520 songs a week. I think that is enough for it all. :)

Believe me, I am NOT arguing against having more variety on RP (which is part of what makes it great) but 2520 songs is not 'all' of them. If there were indeed only 2520 songs available in the world, I could see an argument for playing this. But there are at least a squillion. So...

Posted 13 years ago by toomanyollys [ Reply ]

At least it's better than Neil Young!

Posted 13 years ago by Mikelo [ Reply ]

Proclivities wrote:

Claiming another artist's work as one's own is called "plagiarism", which this is not an example of. Nowadays, anyone who uses samples from another recording artist's work has to pay substantial fees for their use. "Fraud" is an attempt to deceive; this recording artist made no attempt to hide the fact that he used samples from Neil Young's tune as the backing music.

exactly.

Posted 13 years ago by daveesh [ Reply ]

redmachine wrote:

stealing other people's art is called fraud.
all those ridiculous rappers who have earned disgusting riches to flaunt in people's faces are riding the backs of real artists.

Claiming another artist's work as one's own is called "plagiarism", which this is not an example of. Nowadays, anyone who uses samples from another recording artist's work has to pay substantial fees for their use. "Fraud" is an attempt to deceive; this recording artist made no attempt to hide the fact that he used samples from Neil Young's tune as the backing music.

Posted 13 years ago by Proclivities [ Reply ]

i love how "purists" get all high and mighty when they talk about sampling. plagiarism is not cool. (see isley brothers vs. michael bolton, vanilla ice vs. david bowie and queen, etc.) this is not plagiarism, it is sampling. sampling, to me, is no different than a sculptor using found objects. clearly, he has the permission of neil young to do this.

Posted 13 years ago by daveesh [ Reply ]

redmachine wrote:

stealing other people's art is called fraud.

Posted 13 years ago by ScottFromWyoming [ Reply ]

White boy cheesy Kid Rock wannabe Hip-Hop. This will not help anyone who has not been exposed to true Hip-Hop.

Posted 13 years ago by sirdroseph [ Reply ]

toomanyollys wrote:

If the average length of a song is around 4 minutes, then he can get 360 songs a day in and 2520 songs a week. I think that is enough for it all. :)

Posted 13 years ago by sbegf [ Reply ]

ScottishWillie wrote:

I listen to Radio Paradise to be exposed to eclectic programming even when the music (like this track) doesn’t do it for me.

Exactly! I have gotten so much "new" music from this station, I want Bill to keep choosing anything he feels is worth playing....

Posted 13 years ago by sbegf [ Reply ]

Is it over yet?

I dare not to turn on my radio... yet.

Posted 13 years ago by bartverheijen [ Reply ]

Fredrikson wrote:

About deviating from your own mainstream, I think there are more deserving genres out there that are overlooked by RP than whatever this is.

Posted 13 years ago by toomanyollys [ Reply ]

I listen to Radio Paradise to be exposed to eclectic programming even when the music (like this track) doesn’t do it for me.

Posted 13 years ago by ScottishWillie [ Reply ]

i grew up listening to neil young from a very young age. this song in particular (well, neil's version) is seared into my consciousness. i think this actually is kinda cool. nothing wrong with a little experimentation using two diametrically opposed styles of music.

Posted 13 years ago by daveesh [ Reply ]

redmachine wrote:

stealing other people's art is called fraud.
all those ridiculous rappers who have earned disgusting riches to flaunt in people's faces are riding the backs of real artists.

I don't know..."real artists" have been covering each others work for years. I look at this more as more of a cover than a sampling.

Posted 13 years ago by sbegf [ Reply ]

It's nice to see at least *someone* recognize the value of fathers in their children's lives. This song should be blasted at every feminist man-hating rally to drown out their anti-father screeching.

Posted 13 years ago by GT66 [ Reply ]

Is this a 1 hit wonder or does this guy have any depth?

Sounds too much like a Kidd Rock knock-off song.

Posted 13 years ago by iTuner [ Reply ]

About deviating from your own mainstream, I think there are more deserving genres out there that are overlooked by RP than whatever this is.

Posted 13 years ago by Fredrikson [ Reply ]

cafortier wrote:

What kinda crap is this? Grrrrr. Can't believe Neil let him use part of this song! If I could give it a negative rating, I would

Coming out of the song, Bill just said that Neil likes it! Eh...it is something different, that is what RP is all about.

Posted 13 years ago by sbegf [ Reply ]

Just hear Bill say "And Neil Young likes it". I can't believe that.

Posted 13 years ago by cafortier [ Reply ]

stealing other people's art is called fraud.
all those ridiculous rappers who have earned disgusting riches to flaunt in people's faces are riding the backs of real artists.

Posted 13 years ago by redmachine [ Reply ]

Ha, I definitely don't dislike this as much as some other folks on here, but it's not all that great, either. :)

Posted 13 years ago by zair99 [ Reply ]

I never ask for anything on here, it'd be cool if this wasn't played.

In general, when songs are communally rated very low are they removed?

Posted 13 years ago by Augustus [ Reply ]

- 1,000

Posted 13 years ago by bartverheijen [ Reply ]

Nice set — Sugar Mountain > Old Man. Prolly already posted this, but I think this is a great tool for making NY's music relevant to a younger generation. It has worked in my household, anyhow.

Posted 13 years ago by WayUpNorth [ Reply ]

why does not RP give you a 'zero' option, or better still a negative number?

Posted 13 years ago by redmachine [ Reply ]

What kinda crap is this? Grrrrr. Can't believe Neil let him use part of this song! If I could give it a negative rating, I would

Posted 13 years ago by cafortier [ Reply ]

This is ok, at least some semblance of Hip-Hop has made RP. Does this open the door?

Posted 13 years ago by sirdroseph [ Reply ]

:-(.........

Posted 13 years ago by madebytim [ Reply ]

He sounds like an utter weapon.
Yo, yeah, huh!
It's called humour and style, you have none.
jog on

Posted 13 years ago by redmachine [ Reply ]

I am throwing up in my mouth right now. whats next limp bizkit?

Posted 13 years ago by rickhoran [ Reply ]

I would be a happy camper if I never heard this song here again.

Posted 13 years ago by Maggle_Bish [ Reply ]

I like it.

Posted 13 years ago by Hannio [ Reply ]

Now you've been through the worst and you know who to trust
Leave 'em somethin' behind before the ashes and dust

Posted 13 years ago by Baby_M [ Reply ]

...hmmm Niel OKed it,still I will have to listen some more times.

Posted 13 years ago by HazzeSwede [ Reply ]

Sacrilege!

Posted 13 years ago by alchelano [ Reply ]

Smoove_D wrote:

I like this. Some of you hate it, but perhaps you like Pink Floyd, which Bill plays a lot of. To you I say, I hate Pink Floyd. But I'll continue to stick with RP no matter how much Pink Floyd Bill plays; I'll just turn the volume down.

Way to go, Bill. Long live the last DJ.

Fair enough...

Posted 13 years ago by Byronape [ Reply ]

Got to give 'em credit for a nice job of sampling Young. I dig the beat, lyrics, and moving visuals for the video. It's a song that actually says something meaningful about life and the impact of our fathers, which is what Young was doing in the original. Way to go...

Posted 13 years ago by fitzworld [ Reply ]

fatcatjb cover rules:
1) pay tribute to the original
2) make it your own

And Neil said yes!

Posted 13 years ago by fatcatjb [ Reply ]

was für ein Frevel!!!!!!!!!! Stopp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aufhören!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted 13 years ago by kurtkniffel [ Reply ]

I like this. Some of you hate it, but perhaps you like Pink Floyd, which Bill plays a lot of. To you I say, I hate Pink Floyd. But I'll continue to stick with RP no matter how much Pink Floyd Bill plays; I'll just turn the volume down.

Way to go, Bill. Long live the last DJ.

Posted 13 years ago by Smoove_D [ Reply ]

Love it! :)

Bill just verified that Neil says he likes it. That's plenty good enough for me! 8

Posted 13 years ago by fingerpin [ Reply ]

wtf? is nothing sacred?

Posted 13 years ago by DaveInSaoMiguel [ Reply ]

Still liking it!

Posted 13 years ago by drussell [ Reply ]

Quite timely, in a way. Thanks RP!

Posted 13 years ago by cohifi [ Reply ]

Is there a rating lower than 1?

Posted 13 years ago by rtrudeau [ Reply ]

~sigh~
insert headshake and eyeball roll here.

Posted 13 years ago by bchartier [ Reply ]

Gotta say, I like this.

Posted 13 years ago by LennytheB [ Reply ]

Love Neil
Enjoyed this too!

Posted 13 years ago by fgirl [ Reply ]

This guy pisses me off. Poseur with a neck tattoo cruising his beater bike around Hollywood preaching about how hard he had it growing up and how he's got to keep it real.

Posted 13 years ago by ick [ Reply ]

Really enjoyed that tune! Nice eclecticness!

Posted 13 years ago by drussell [ Reply ]

bentonian wrote:

This is a great piece of music...

Posted 13 years ago by crockydile [ Reply ]

Excellent work RP folks, keep mixing it up! Indeed eclectic means eclectic & that's why RP is so kick ass.

Posted 13 years ago by fmthayer [ Reply ]

Actually an interesting cover, but stylistically nothing new. In fact, sounds like Redlight King just copied old Toby Mac and hoped no one would notice.

Posted 13 years ago by actusreus [ Reply ]

SinisterDexter wrote:

SinisterDexter wrote:
He even quotes Rudyard Kipling - how cool is that?
kcar wrote:

Really...Could you point that out to me? Thanks!

When he says: "never breathe a word of his loss" - that's one of many famous lines from Kipling's poem "If."

Thanks, Dex. Nice catch.

Posted 13 years ago by q4Fry [ Reply ]

I love this! This is a great piece of music, that pulls from the past, talks to the future, and grabs you.

And for the haters, is eclectic really eclectic, or do you think it means playing Neil Young AND CSNY?

Posted 13 years ago by bentonian [ Reply ]

Bit of a 'marmite' response to this track..

I like marmite, and I kinda like this. Well my left foot does, it's happily tapping along..

Posted 13 years ago by Ouch [ Reply ]

Oh Hell No!

Posted 13 years ago by Boreal [ Reply ]

Kid Rock wannabe doing mediocre hip hop with a song that rides on the cultural memory of Neil's classic.

Posted 13 years ago by crockydile [ Reply ]

Marcel1979 wrote:

I don't like hiphop-covers, and that's the reason I listen to RP and not to mainstream radio channels.

I concur and hope their is no more of this ilk here...

Posted 13 years ago by tulfan [ Reply ]

Found this on youtube and played it for my teenage sons who thought it was good, in part due to the motorhead-oriented lyrics (which is big in my household). They are no longer surprised when I bring home some pretty "cool" stuff for them to listen to. Thanks RP!

Posted 13 years ago by WayUpNorth [ Reply ]

Sucko-Barfo is RIGHT! :P

Posted 13 years ago by audiophelia [ Reply ]

Bet Neil likes this. I do.

Posted 13 years ago by lemmoth [ Reply ]

Why?

Posted 13 years ago by MrKite [ Reply ]

Proper emotion, respect, and heart - I think Neil would approve, I certainly do. . .

Posted 13 years ago by vandal [ Reply ]

Sounds fine enough to me and I love Neil Young's music

Posted 13 years ago by arserocket [ Reply ]

Still a bloody 1.

Posted 13 years ago by WhiteWater [ Reply ]

I don't like hiphop-covers, and that's the reason I listen to RP and not to mainstream radio channels.

Posted 13 years ago by Marcel1979 [ Reply ]

Kilroy wrote:

I'm convinced Bill plays this crap to stir up the message board.... either that or Bill and "Redlight King" have some illicit payola scam going......

One listener's crap is another's gold, or at least silver, and the Nottingham jury gives this 8 points. I can imagine that Neil Young fans might consider this, or any other, cover to be sacrilege, but as I've a lot of respect for his songwriting but can't bear his voice I much prefer covers to the original.

Posted 13 years ago by fredriley [ Reply ]

vit wrote:

Holy crap I completely forgot I was listening to Radio Paradise because it's the first time I've ever heard hip-hop here. Judging by the rating I'd say that Radio Paradise just became more eclectic than its audience. This is a solid 6 although I gave it a 10, kinda like the way you give the new kid a gold star so they feel better about trying really hard. I read the lyrics and they have at least as much meaning as your typical Neko Case song, so get over it, haters.

Hear, hear! I agree totally. More of this and less of Fleet Foxes would be my choice....

Posted 13 years ago by jools [ Reply ]

SinisterDexter wrote:
He even quotes Rudyard Kipling - how cool is that?
kcar wrote:

Really...Could you point that out to me? Thanks!

When he says: "never breathe a word of his loss" - that's one of many famous lines from Kipling's poem "If."

Posted 13 years ago by SinisterDexter [ Reply ]

I'm convinced Bill plays this crap to stir up the message board.... either that or Bill and "Redlight King" have some illicit payola scam going......

Posted 13 years ago by Ipse_Dixit [ Reply ]

Holy crap I completely forgot I was listening to Radio Paradise because it's the first time I've ever heard hip-hop here. Judging by the rating I'd say that Radio Paradise just became more eclectic than its audience. This is a solid 6 although I gave it a 10, kinda like the way you give the new kid a gold star so they feel better about trying really hard. I read the lyrics and they have at least as much meaning as your typical Neko Case song, so get over it, haters.

Posted 13 years ago by vit [ Reply ]

SinisterDexter wrote:

He even quotes Rudyard Kipling - how cool is that?

Really...Could you point that out to me? Thanks!

Posted 13 years ago by kcar [ Reply ]

THANK YOU, RP for taking a chance and stretching out your offers!
Neil is a personal HERO and its a total coup! for RP to let us in on his one and only first authorized Sample.. very very cool keep it up!

Posted 13 years ago by TuneAgeWhereWoof [ Reply ]

Not sure what the hippie part refers to lol but I like it and I am older then dirt lol considered my self a "hippy type" guy way back when, mentally im still a hippie and I still like this version. RP takes chances and some work some don't mute or fly away ! Photo-John wrote:

Second listen and I'm still digging it. Shut up, hippies.

Posted 13 years ago by willmcnaught [ Reply ]

this just lost you a longtime listener.

Posted 13 years ago by oldfart48 [ Reply ]

tphord wrote:

Oh Jesus... No No NO No NOOOOOOO...
Dosn't looking at that kid make you want to just slap him ?

c'mon...it's an album cover

Posted 13 years ago by anisbet [ Reply ]

Pure blasphemy. Neil should be ashamed of this abomination of his genious.

Posted 13 years ago by Sasha2001 [ Reply ]

Still not ready to rate this. Need to hear it again after finals.

Posted 13 years ago by catsoup [ Reply ]

Some day, people will realize that laying down a lame rap over a classic song is like mutilating puppies.... Until then, I will change the channel or hit mute whenever this crap is played.

Posted 13 years ago by Ipse_Dixit [ Reply ]

complete lack of originality.......crap

Posted 13 years ago by leathepea [ Reply ]

I like hearing a new song on RP now and again, and this one is just fine.

Posted 13 years ago by siandbeth [ Reply ]

Hip Hop-ish on RP? What is going on ? Never hear this artist before. He is ok I suppose, tho I really prefer Jurassic5, Blackalicious and People Under the Stairs.

Posted 13 years ago by dynamaniak [ Reply ]

Oh Jesus... No No NO No NOOOOOOO...
Dosn't looking at that kid make you want to just slap him ?

Posted 13 years ago by tphord [ Reply ]

Scores points for originality, and for making the juxtaposition of hip-hop and Neil Young actually work.

Posted 13 years ago by Baby_M [ Reply ]

Why not...

Posted 13 years ago by anisbet [ Reply ]

This is really good stuff. The only way to listen to Neil, for one thing, and a great take for a new era.

Don't worry about the graybeards and tongue-waggers who think Neil walks on water and should be treated like a saint's relics. Time marches on! Always forward, never straight!

Posted 13 years ago by bentonian [ Reply ]

wow, just when I though you couldn't make neil young any worse.

Posted 13 years ago by dogpound [ Reply ]

WTF! Can't wait to play this for my teenage sons and get their reactions ... reminds me of Gangstagrass! Lovin' it ...

Posted 13 years ago by WayUpNorth [ Reply ]

Sampled tunes like this are hit or miss. This one is hit.

Posted 13 years ago by xtalman [ Reply ]

Hannio wrote:

At first, I was like, whaaaaattttt?? But then, I was like, wow.

and then... after that, I was like

Posted 13 years ago by ch83575 [ Reply ]

Thought something was up with my itunes radio, thought it had changed channels on it's own....totally unexpected.

Posted 13 years ago by sbegf [ Reply ]

Posted 13 years ago by Alexandra [ Reply ]

Second listen and I'm still digging it. Shut up, hippies.

Posted 13 years ago by Photo-John [ Reply ]

Neat

might get more young people exposed to Neil Young's music

Posted 13 years ago by coding_to_music [ Reply ]

Thanks for trying out things like this. Now please don't ever play this one again. :^)

Posted 13 years ago by ottojschlosser [ Reply ]

I can't believe this song got such a meager rating. I've been listening to it every day, and telling all my friends about it. Fantastic!!! There is a clip of him on youtube, and he described how he contacted Neil Young's manager, label, agent, and got nowhere, and then somehow he got Neil himself to hear it, and Neil gave him the go-ahead to record it. Check it out.

Posted 13 years ago by kawasaki [ Reply ]

Leave Neil's voice out of it and I might have given it a 2. I'm surprised as hell that Neil would even allow somebody to sample his stuff. Pretty classic that he did though. When he does, he does it all the way.

Posted 13 years ago by estprophet22 [ Reply ]

That was fun! Love surprises.

Posted 13 years ago by tony_brennan [ Reply ]

Most interesting. Before I checked who was doing it, for about 10 seconds to me it sounded like Eminem. I said, what's he doing here? But I thought he did a compelling repurpose of one of Neil's quintessential songs. Good deal. I look forward to hearing it again.

Posted 13 years ago by kingart [ Reply ]

Heard this recently on one of the rare occasions that I listen to commercial radio. I don't mind it at all. I also didn't mind the Kid Rock Sweet Home Alabama/Werewolves of London thing from a year or two ago. Might be a good addition to this little set.

Posted 13 years ago by cosmiclint [ Reply ]

LOVE IT!!!

Posted 13 years ago by cosmick8 [ Reply ]

I have the same attitude about getting exposed to new stuff from RP. However, this is not for my ear at all. It does follow a bunch of stuff I really approved of tho'.

rough1 wrote:

yes please—-i listen to RP so i can get exposed to something that i don't already know—-i thought it was fun since i Loved the original for some decades already—tryin' to hold the teen form till the end

Posted 13 years ago by oldsinger [ Reply ]

I like it!

Posted 13 years ago by floydginger [ Reply ]

I'm a long long time Neil Young fan and I loved this. Fresh!

Posted 13 years ago by parnoldo [ Reply ]

Like it!

Posted 13 years ago by FlatCat [ Reply ]

Not as bad the second time around. 5 for now.

Posted 13 years ago by Webfoot [ Reply ]

At first, I was like, whaaaaattttt?? But then, I was like, wow.

Posted 13 years ago by Hannio [ Reply ]

I kinda like the idea, although I'm not completely sold on the final product. Still, interesting.