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You might spoil your face
If you walk in the crowd
You won't leave any trace
It's always the same
You're jumping someone else's train
It won't take you long
To learn the new smile
You have to adapt
Or you'll be out of style
It's always the same
You're jumping someone else's train
If you pick up on it quick
You can say you were there
Again and again and again
You're jumping someone else's train
It's the latest wave
That you've been craving for
The old ideal was getting such a bore
Now you're back in line
Going not quite quite as far
But in half the time
Everyone's happy
They're finally all the same
Because everyone's jumping
Everybody else's train
Jumping someone else's train
Jumping someone else's train
Jumping someone else's train
Great show and a great band!
Box cars. Are pulling. Out of town.
And, are you gonna count em?
Bought the album "Standing on a Beach (The Singles) in 1986. Back in the day when they got zero air play - at least in my hometown. Had only read of them and decided to buy this to see what the hype was about. It did not move me in the least on the first listen and thought about trading it. As the years passed this album got better. 35 years later - it is still in my collection and is a favorite of the next generation of listeners (my kids and their friends). The music has a timeless quality to it.
Sometimes GREAT MUSIC has to grow on you! Thanx RP!
Hey Folks - Reminder:
Conformity Kills... š
Creativity, Critical Thought, Clarity, Consciousness....
Too funny!
In case anyone's wondering:
"The name of old man featured on the album cover was John Button, and he was at the time a retired fisherman. He also appeared in the music video for āKilling an Arab.ā According to the bandās 2005 biography by Jeff Apter, when asked why he agreed to lend his face to the bandās media, Buttonās answer was āIf I can help these youngsters break through, after all, why not?ā"
https://sonicmoremusic.wordpre...
I think we can all agree that Mr. Button achieved his objective.
Thank You for the info!
"The name of old man featured on the album cover was John Button, and he was at the time a retired fisherman. He also appeared in the music video for āKilling an Arab.ā According to the bandās 2005 biography by Jeff Apter, when asked why he agreed to lend his face to the bandās media, Buttonās answer was āIf I can help these youngsters break through, after all, why not?ā"
https://sonicmoremusic.wordpre...
I think we can all agree that Mr. Button achieved his objective.
Jumping someone else's train:
Copying someone else's style, or just agreeing with what they say and believe to fit in.
The Cure was one of the connections I could make with my eldest teenage daughter back in the early 2000's. She 'let' me take her and her friends to HFStival in DC two years running. Thank you Cure, Interpol, Foo Fighters, etc! She reciprocated by taking me to see David Byrne, Tuneyards, etc later on. Thank you music.
It is beyond special the way that music can add to a bond with your children. It's a memory and a shared experience that lasts a lifetime. Irreplaceable!
Damnit! There's a song withiin that comment.
Right? The lyric writes itself.
Very interesting never knew that! Thx.
Retired fisherman John Button apparently:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
How perfectly droll.
Except R.E.M. sucks. Just whiney Michael Tripe (Stipe). The Cure is 1000 times superior.
And Mr. Bill, since all The Cure songs here eventually dissolve-devolve into discussions about Killing An Arab/Camus, go figure, maybe you could direct obsessive commenteers to THAT The Cure song. Jeez.
I have no doubt that's true, but the book I read in high school in 1981 was also titled The Outsider.
I think I first read it (titled The Stranger) in 1980 or '81, but I had gotten my (old) copy from a used book store.
How perfectly droll.
Get it, GET IT!
Such a good riff and good bass line
The Cure are just not acknowledged as being as good as they are out there in musicland, thank goodness Bill and we know better
{as the umpteenth post in a few days after months of silence, anyone would think I must be software testing again and bored out of my tiny....}
Damnit! There's a song withiin that comment.
Nope! That's reason this is one of my favorite Cure songs.
I have no doubt that's true, but the book I read in high school in 1981 was also titled The Outsider.
man, you ARE an old fart...
a seminal, seminal, record.
...Another note - I'm interested in knowing where this book was referred to as 'The Outsider', I've always known it as 'The Stranger' or 'L’Étranger'.
An English-language translation form 2012 had the title re-translated the title as The Outsider for the following reason:
"In French, étranger can be translated as “outsider,” “stranger” or “foreigner.” Our protagonist, Meursault, is all three, and the concept of an outsider encapsulates all these possible meanings: Meursault is a stranger to himself, an outsider to society and a foreigner because he is a Frenchman in Algeria."
It is incorrect to say the protagonist (Meursault) shot 'the arab' for no good reason other than feeling hot and confused.
Several hours prior to the shooting, 'the arab' attacked and maimed the protagonist's friend with a knife. And when he meets Mersault on a deserted beach, he brandishes a knife and flashes it menacingly.
So there were clearly other good reasons, self defense or revenge, take your pick.
Another note - I'm interested in knowing where this book was referred to as 'The Outsider', I've always known it as 'The Stranger' or 'L’Étranger'.
Camus' book is titled The Stranger. And note the lyrical reference to it in the chorus, "I am the Stranger...."
Having heard the song and read The Outsider in my callow youth, I'd agree with that. In the book, which really isn't worth reading these days as it was very much of its time (IMO, of course), the protagonist shoots an Arab guy on a beach in Algiers (where Camus grew up) for no good reason other than he was feeling too hot and confused. A brief synopsis is on Wikipedia.
That the Cure sung about an existentialist novel fits in with their intellectual leanings/pretensions, and existential angst was a constant theme of tortured adolescents (including myself) in those days. The essence of existentialism, at least in Camus and Sartre, is that an individual makes his (and it's always a 'he') own truth and meaning in life, and that to be influenced in this individual construction of meaning by society and others is "bad faith". Or to put it in adolescent-speak: 'nobody understands me, and I don't care'. If there'd been emos back in the 80s, they'd have been into Camus and Sartre for sure.
It is incorrect to say the protagonist (Meursault) shot 'the arab' for no good reason other than feeling hot and confused.
Several hours prior to the shooting, 'the arab' attacked and maimed the protagonist's friend with a knife. And when he meets Mersault on a deserted beach, he brandishes a knife and flashes it menacingly.
So there were clearly other good reasons, self defense or revenge, take your pick.
Another note - I'm interested in knowing where this book was referred to as 'The Outsider', I've always known it as 'The Stranger' or 'L’Étranger'.
Killing and Arab's a brilliant song (haven't really thought about it's political correctness or otherwise) - I thought it was based on Camus' The Outsider' where the scene on the beach is a critical moment in his existential wranglings...
Having heard the song and read The Outsider in my callow youth, I'd agree with that. In the book, which really isn't worth reading these days as it was very much of its time (IMO, of course), the protagonist shoots an Arab guy on a beach in Algiers (where Camus grew up) for no good reason other than he was feeling too hot and confused. A brief synopsis is on Wikipedia.
That the Cure sung about an existentialist novel fits in with their intellectual leanings/pretensions, and existential angst was a constant theme of tortured adolescents (including myself) in those days. The essence of existentialism, at least in Camus and Sartre, is that an individual makes his (and it's always a 'he') own truth and meaning in life, and that to be influenced in this individual construction of meaning by society and others is "bad faith". Or to put it in adolescent-speak: 'nobody understands me, and I don't care'. If there'd been emos back in the 80s, they'd have been into Camus and Sartre for sure.
Yup, agreed!
This song pre-dates the existence of R.E.M., but there is a similarity. This was before The Cure got into their Gothic personas.
The first Cure album is still their best. It seems like that's the case for many groups.
Go Gerbil go!!!
They've always denied it but the cover is Robert Smith without his makeup.
Killing and Arab's a brilliant song (haven't really thought about it's political correctness or otherwise) - I thought it was based on Camus' The Outsider' where the scene on the beach is a critical moment in his existential wranglings... Having a Cure revival right now. Agree they looked and sounded much better before they became Goth
I recall as a student that Cure caused a furure with their song Killing An Arab offending a number of the Student Left wingers across the country. Ha, so tame now.
I preferred the Cure before Goth was applied as their label. My 5 year old loves A Forest.
Nailed it, as usual. Cure circa 1979. Can you identify Robert Smith?
But...... they look....... normal!!!
I just can't watch this.........
This song pre-dates the existence of R.E.M., but there is a similarity. This was before The Cure got into their Gothic personas.
Nailed it, as usual. Cure circa 1979. Can you identify Robert Smith?
Neil
This song pre-dates the existence of R.E.M., but there is a similarity. This was before The Cure got into their Gothic personas.
Neil
Kindergarten car pool...words that encircle the soul, perfecting a small frenzied hell.
This.
And I never thought I would EVER appreciate the Cure.
Same for me!
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 - 13:01
Bill, your segues are truly amazing. Who would have thought THAT after Subterranean Homesick Blues?
And what is even more strange: who would have thought that it works??
But this track at least reminds me of what I enjoyed in their music when I were a lad...
And no, it's not the vocals.
I still like "A Forest" though.
My daughter is five, and she's mystified by the Clash's "Should I Stay or Should I Go?"
"Why can't he stay or go?" "Why will there be trouble?" These are the questions I get.
Great story, thanks for that!