PattonFever originally wrote: ...then wrote:

sergeant_x wrote: but you find a point in being full of personal attacks on people for not liking a song? so much for "higher calibre" listeners. i resented that remark.

sergeant_x wrote: hehe. I agree with that part. I think I drank too much tea this morning. I am going to go drink some de-caf and see if that will chill me out. Forgive my argumentative post.

Settle down Echo, apparently you missed my point, which is that this is not the kind of blind patriotism that others in this thread seem to be accusing it of... and its NOT a Jackson Browne song. He did do a cover of it, but its from a fine album by Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul. As far as your politics, I've never found much point in getting into that kind of debate online.

sergeant_x wrote: I assume it's up to you to define a 'real patriot' and a 'high caliber listener'. It's not too boneheaded to think that a few republicans, capitalists, democrats and other "..ists" the Burns Sisters mention define themselves as real 'Patriots' and they may have a valid argument to support their definition. In fact, some people who believe in war as a means of protecting our liberties may have a valid arguement that they too are patrriots. In fact, some may argue that the patriots that liberated this country were 'flag waving war mongers' since they waved their own flag and participated in a war. Odd how war, patriots and liberty can be related. I wonder how the Burns SIsters think we got this liberty? Did we play folk music for the British until they handed us our Constitution and autonomy?

osubucknut wrote: It wasn't on Lives in the Balance but I think you might be right about it being a Jackson Browne tune. And, in spite of what someone called 'moronic' lyrics (or songs), Jackson Browne has put out some pretty intelligent thoughts (several examples, along with some fluff, can be found on the aforementioned Lives in the Balance. The title track, in particular, makes up for something like In the Shape of a Heart). Just one guy's opinion, but it's mine.

PattonFever wrote: What a bunch a boneheads... did you actually listen to this? Its basically trying to explain the difference between a real patriot and flag waving war mongers. Dissappointing. Thought we had a higher caliber listener around here. I agree this isn't the best version of this. Look for the original, its by Steven Van Zandt, of Sopranos fame... the Boss's old guitar player. And the river opens for the righteous, someday I was walking with my brother And he wondered what was on my mind I said what I believe in my soul It ain't what I see with my eyes And we can't turn our backs this time I am a patriot and I love my country Because my country is all I know I want to be with my family With people who understand me I got nowhere else to go I am a patriot And the river opens for the righteous, someday I was talking with my sister She looked so fine I said baby what's on your mind She said I want to run like the lion Released from the cages Released from the rages Burning in my heart tonight I am a patriot and I love my country Because my country is all I know And I ain't no communist, and I ain't no capitalist And I ain't no socialist and I sure ain't no imperialist And I ain't no democrat And I ain't no republican either And I only know one party and its name is freedom I am a patriot And the river opens for the righteous, someday

..and I ain't no lyricist.

( hum this one along the same tune ... ) I am a Canadian ! And we don't sing about crap like this ! This is the worst song, I've ever heard ! There goes my donation ! Out into the ocean ! Never again do we need to hear this drivel !!!

take your patriotism and shove it up your ass. this is NOT what i listen to RP for. thanks.

parkov wrote: Thats exactly what I thought... terrible, indeed. d/l

iggy33 wrote: I'm a LIBERAL (and proud of it, Sen. Dole!!) a Democrat, a progressive, support the UN, world peace, understanding among peoples, etc. but ALSO a patriot--"there is only one party: Liberty!"

Terrible. How about using that liberty to decide on some political beliefs, Burns Sisters?

charlesr wrote: no, I think it's because the lyrics are moronic

Still sounds cheesy in the U.S. I think Jackson Browne did this on his "Lives In the Balance" cd.

charlesr wrote: No, it's cheesy. And I'm from the U.S.

Is this cheesy or what? Maybe it is just because I am from the UK?

I'm feeling sick...RP please shelve this one FOREVER !!