The Church — Ripple
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Tiny baby, so naive
I can't believe what you believe
You were once so happy here
It may not be Eden or summer in Greece
You may not even find the Gold Fleece
In the drag of this atmosphere
Now I don't want to bring up a delicate matter
No I'd much rather bribe or flatter you
'Cause flattery gets me everywhere
But you punctured my tires, you crossed all my wires
I brand your acolytes as a pack of liars
And the fire's singing everywhere
Buckle like a wreck on the cold green sea
Like you were a ripple in my memory
I lent you some collateral to buy new clothes
It went out the window and up your nose
And that's the end of the honeymoon
Yeah we walked down the aisle for another mile
I'd walk a million miles for one of your smiles
And you can have all the money soon
You're so deluxe, you're so divine
You're so fifty light years ahead of your time
You're a riddle, you're a ripple
You're the human sacrifice to the goddess of ice
Your hairdo is filled with diamonds and lice
And you're hardly off the nipple
Another little glitch in continuity
Like you were a ripple in my memory
I can't believe what you believe
You were once so happy here
It may not be Eden or summer in Greece
You may not even find the Gold Fleece
In the drag of this atmosphere
Now I don't want to bring up a delicate matter
No I'd much rather bribe or flatter you
'Cause flattery gets me everywhere
But you punctured my tires, you crossed all my wires
I brand your acolytes as a pack of liars
And the fire's singing everywhere
Buckle like a wreck on the cold green sea
Like you were a ripple in my memory
I lent you some collateral to buy new clothes
It went out the window and up your nose
And that's the end of the honeymoon
Yeah we walked down the aisle for another mile
I'd walk a million miles for one of your smiles
And you can have all the money soon
You're so deluxe, you're so divine
You're so fifty light years ahead of your time
You're a riddle, you're a ripple
You're the human sacrifice to the goddess of ice
Your hairdo is filled with diamonds and lice
And you're hardly off the nipple
Another little glitch in continuity
Like you were a ripple in my memory
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khardog145 wrote:
That's the speed of light, not a light year.
sergeant_x wrote:
Nerd complaint: The lyric "you're so fifty light years ahead of your time" --- A light year is a measure of distance, not a time period.... Get it straight people!
But isn't it 186,000 miles per second?That's the speed of light, not a light year.
sergeant_x wrote:
Nerd complaint: The lyric "you're so fifty light years ahead of your time" --- A light year is a measure of distance, not a time period.... Get it straight people!
But isn't it 186,000 miles per second? driver8 wrote:
That's one mighty convoluted route to get pyramid knowledge from Egypt to the Maya (who are in southern Mexico and northernmost Central America, by the way, not South America). The more simple explanation is that the Maya (and central Mexico cultures) figured out how to build pyramids all on their own. Trust in Occam's razor, not Campbell.
moonbat wrote:
Great album. Dark as hell, but great.
Driver8, would that temple be considered a ziggurat? Cute dog.
isn't that (ziggurat) a candy bar? i keed!
I guess it could be considered a ziggurat. Wiki reports about ziggurats in mesopatamia while this one is in Egypt. Something of note:
Joseph Campbell in his Masks of God books says that there is archaelogical evidence supporting a direct link between Mesopotamian ziggurats and the pyramids of Egypt. Campbell also states that from Egypt, the Mesopotamian culture was passed on almost simultaneously on two separate fronts to Crete and India. From India it reached China and from there it crossed the ocean to the pre-columbian societies of Central and South America, which could explain the similarities between ziggurats and Mayan pyramids.
That's one mighty convoluted route to get pyramid knowledge from Egypt to the Maya (who are in southern Mexico and northernmost Central America, by the way, not South America). The more simple explanation is that the Maya (and central Mexico cultures) figured out how to build pyramids all on their own. Trust in Occam's razor, not Campbell.
My brother, who was living in Brussels at the time, told my sister (who was living in London), over the phone, the name of their new-born child - George. He also pointed out to our mother, who was in the same room as him at the time, that Annabel (our sis) heard the news first, much to the chagrin of Mother! "That's politics, innit..." as Danny would say (Withnail & I)
gmichaelt wrote:
gmichaelt wrote:
sergeant_x wrote:
Figuratively, anything goes. But why use a measure of distance when you have measures of time available? "You are ahead by a century, you are ahead by a century, and disappointing you is bringing me down".
Two points: How do you know a star is long dead? You can say 'the star we observed today may well have died millions of years ago, given its calculated distance' — and you could very well be right, but you'd still have to wait for confirming evidence. That takes time. Will you wait for me?
Second: distance, per se, can't be a measure of time — unless you assume a speed (in this case, the speed of light, c, is the relevant one, as it is implicit in the term "light year"). Instead, given a fixed speed, a distance can imply an amount of time; given the approximate distance to your interstellar probe, you can calculate how long it will take for new instructions to get to it at c, the speed of light (and radio). Confirmation of receipt, of course, will take twice as long. Is it a lost cause?
d=vt is a fixed relationship.
Nerd complaint: The lyric "you're so fifty light years ahead of your time" —- A light year is a measure of distance, not a time period...
Mayasha wrote:Nerd reply: The light from distant stars is just now reaching us, we see them how they were long time ago. We see stars that died long time ago. So yes, distance can be a measure of time. And that's true especially for an artistic expression. Just saying...
Figuratively, anything goes. But why use a measure of distance when you have measures of time available? "You are ahead by a century, you are ahead by a century, and disappointing you is bringing me down".
Two points: How do you know a star is long dead? You can say 'the star we observed today may well have died millions of years ago, given its calculated distance' — and you could very well be right, but you'd still have to wait for confirming evidence. That takes time. Will you wait for me?
Second: distance, per se, can't be a measure of time — unless you assume a speed (in this case, the speed of light, c, is the relevant one, as it is implicit in the term "light year"). Instead, given a fixed speed, a distance can imply an amount of time; given the approximate distance to your interstellar probe, you can calculate how long it will take for new instructions to get to it at c, the speed of light (and radio). Confirmation of receipt, of course, will take twice as long. Is it a lost cause?
d=vt is a fixed relationship.
sergeant_x wrote:
Figuratively, anything goes. But why use a measure of distance when you have measures of time available? "You are ahead by a century, you are ahead by a century, and disappointing you is bringing me down".
Two points: How do you know a star is long dead? You can say 'the star we observed today may well have died millions of years ago, given its calculated distance' — and you could very well be right, but you'd still have to wait for confirming evidence. That takes time. Will you wait for me?
Second: distance, per se, can't be a measure of time — unless you assume a speed (in this case, the speed of light, c, is the relevant one, as it is implicit in the term "light year"). Instead, given a fixed speed, a distance can imply an amount of time; given the approximate distance to your interstellar probe, you can calculate how long it will take for new instructions to get to it at c, the speed of light (and radio). Confirmation of receipt, of course, will take twice as long. Is it a lost cause?
d=vt is a fixed relationship.
Nerd complaint: The lyric "you're so fifty light years ahead of your time" —- A light year is a measure of distance, not a time period...
Mayasha wrote:Nerd reply: The light from distant stars is just now reaching us, we see them how they were long time ago. We see stars that died long time ago. So yes, distance can be a measure of time. And that's true especially for an artistic expression. Just saying...
Figuratively, anything goes. But why use a measure of distance when you have measures of time available? "You are ahead by a century, you are ahead by a century, and disappointing you is bringing me down".
Two points: How do you know a star is long dead? You can say 'the star we observed today may well have died millions of years ago, given its calculated distance' — and you could very well be right, but you'd still have to wait for confirming evidence. That takes time. Will you wait for me?
Second: distance, per se, can't be a measure of time — unless you assume a speed (in this case, the speed of light, c, is the relevant one, as it is implicit in the term "light year"). Instead, given a fixed speed, a distance can imply an amount of time; given the approximate distance to your interstellar probe, you can calculate how long it will take for new instructions to get to it at c, the speed of light (and radio). Confirmation of receipt, of course, will take twice as long. Is it a lost cause?
d=vt is a fixed relationship.
One of the most consistently great bands of the last 40 years...and most consistently overlooked. They continue to put out solid new albums. Forget Yourself from 2003 is a noisy space-rock masterpiece.
Pieter wrote:
Ever seen (heard of) an American Dingo? I own 1 and he's quite similar to this album cover Aussie Dingo.
If that's a dingo on the cover, it's a long way from home.
Ever seen (heard of) an American Dingo? I own 1 and he's quite similar to this album cover Aussie Dingo.
Not quite The Church of the 80's but really good.
neat 8 )
Mayasha wrote:
Nerd reply: The light from distant stars is just now reaching us, we see them how they were long time ago. We see stars that died long time ago. So yes, distance can be a measure of time. And that's true especially for an artistic expression. Just saying...
Well said
Nerd reply: The light from distant stars is just now reaching us, we see them how they were long time ago. We see stars that died long time ago. So yes, distance can be a measure of time. And that's true especially for an artistic expression. Just saying...
Well said
nicknt wrote:
with its almost hypnotic rhythm it should...love these guys...
It's incredible that this little gem doesn't reach at least an 8 average rating ...
with its almost hypnotic rhythm it should...love these guys...
This is actually a great band... for those who in the later 80s and early 90s had already seen some stuff!!
Good band for a sunday, Bill.Actually, good band any day!
Firkin A lyrics.
sergeant_x wrote:
Nerd reply: The light from distant stars is just now reaching us, we see them how they were long time ago. We see stars that died long time ago. So yes, distance can be a measure of time. And that's true especially for an artistic expression. Just saying...
Nerd complaint: The lyric "you're so fifty light years ahead of your time" —- A light year is a measure of distance, not a time period.... Get it straight people!
Nerd reply: The light from distant stars is just now reaching us, we see them how they were long time ago. We see stars that died long time ago. So yes, distance can be a measure of time. And that's true especially for an artistic expression. Just saying...
I try to ignore The Church and PSD straight away, but somedays (and they are on EVERYDAY) I just cant get away from how god dam crap they are! ( I know....... each to their own and all that) And quoting a 1921 song in the lyric? I suppose that's clever irony is it? - I'm sure one of RPs resident pseudo intellectuals will let us all know.
Nerd complaint: The lyric "you're so fifty light years ahead of your time" --- A light year is a measure of distance, not a time period.... Get it straight people!
joempie wrote:
Ummm... that's because they can not. Perhaps you should get a professional to look at the wax buildup in your ears.
Everybody in The Church loves this song :)
Interesting, I never realized they could sound like Bauhaus...
Interesting, I never realized they could sound like Bauhaus...
Ummm... that's because they can not. Perhaps you should get a professional to look at the wax buildup in your ears.
Pieter wrote:
There is a unique brand of wolf or jackal native to the deserts of north africa..... I believe this is it.
Mind you, could be a street mutt! Cairo has a lot of those
If that's a dingo on the cover, it's a long way from home.
There is a unique brand of wolf or jackal native to the deserts of north africa..... I believe this is it.
Mind you, could be a street mutt! Cairo has a lot of those
joempie wrote:
I haven't listened to this in years. I'll have to dig this one out of my cd collection and give it a listen.
Everybody in The Church loves this song :)
Interesting, I never realized they could sound like Bauhaus...
Interesting, I never realized they could sound like Bauhaus...
I haven't listened to this in years. I'll have to dig this one out of my cd collection and give it a listen.
I would buy this album just for the photo on the cover!
Too bad it's listed on Amazon at $45?? HUH?
Too bad it's listed on Amazon at $45?? HUH?
It's incredible that this little gem doesn't reach at least an 8 average rating ...
Everybody in The Church loves this song :)
Interesting, I never realized they could sound like Bauhaus...
Interesting, I never realized they could sound like Bauhaus...
MY CULT BAND STEVE KILBEY AND MWP FOREVER THE BEST
This just kept growing and growing on me as I listened...I was really bummed out when it was over! 
This song is so much better than a 6.7...
Sounds like some good 80s psychedelic rock.... would mix well with Echo
from a church album i don't own (yet). love this band 
...oh, very nice after tango for django...
lwilkinson wrote:
I think that's referred to as "Syncronicity" (Karl Jung); simultaneous knowledge passed thru' the unconscious that is "realized" on a universal level across the globe.....................or it could just be space aliens with little pointy heads and bad skin.
I really hope Bill reads this one on the air someday - SO funny! Thanks for the blast of intelligence mixed with humor.
I think that's referred to as "Syncronicity" (Karl Jung); simultaneous knowledge passed thru' the unconscious that is "realized" on a universal level across the globe.....................or it could just be space aliens with little pointy heads and bad skin.
I really hope Bill reads this one on the air someday - SO funny! Thanks for the blast of intelligence mixed with humor.
Sounds like a soundtrack from a B grade movie
...i realise that i'm just repeating myself at this point, but damn, this is good music...
lkbooth71 wrote:
A Love and Rocket's chaser would be tasty right about now...
yes that too, I was thinking Jesus & Mary Chain's "Just Like Honey" might be nice!
A Love and Rocket's chaser would be tasty right about now...yes that too, I was thinking Jesus & Mary Chain's "Just Like Honey" might be nice!
If that's a dingo on the cover, it's a long way from home.
love this song ... great morning music.
xkolibuul wrote:
I think that's referred to as "Syncronicity" (Karl Jung); simultaneous knowledge passed thru' the unconscious that is "realized" on a universal level across the globe.....................or it could just be space aliens with little pointy heads and bad skin.
Joseph Campbell was really good at wild unsubstantiated theoretical leaps. Mexico didn't need the Old World to learn how to build pyramids. Don't believe the hype.
I think that's referred to as "Syncronicity" (Karl Jung); simultaneous knowledge passed thru' the unconscious that is "realized" on a universal level across the globe.....................or it could just be space aliens with little pointy heads and bad skin.
...magnetic disturbance distorting the meters...
Damn. Love the lyrics to this song.
Now I don't want to bring up a delicate matter
No I'd much rather bribe or flatter you
'Cause flattery gets me everywhere
But you've punctured my tires, you've crossed all my wires
I brand your acolytes as a pack of liars
And the fire's singing everywhere
I leant you some collateral to buy new clothes
It went out the window and up your nose
And that's the end of the honeymoon
Steve Kilbey's the only guy who could write this stuff......
Now I don't want to bring up a delicate matter
No I'd much rather bribe or flatter you
'Cause flattery gets me everywhere
But you've punctured my tires, you've crossed all my wires
I brand your acolytes as a pack of liars
And the fire's singing everywhere
I leant you some collateral to buy new clothes
It went out the window and up your nose
And that's the end of the honeymoon
Steve Kilbey's the only guy who could write this stuff......
...nice...
Joseph Campbell was really good at wild unsubstantiated theoretical leaps.
Mexico didn't need the Old World to learn how to build pyramids. Don't believe the hype.
driver8 wrote:
it is officially friday afternoon now.
and quite the perfect choice song to begin it with.
My first time hearing the tune, but--WOW!--what a kickass album cover.
Shesdifferent wrote:
What an excellent choice!
I agree! Excellently chosen - like the tune.
His passing through my life was like a whisper... but he made ripples in my little pond....
jadewahoo wrote:
And the songs not bad either!
The only church I pay attention to is The Church.
What an excellent choice!And the songs not bad either!
driver8 wrote:
Cool, thanks for the info! Time to get out of Iraq before we blow up the rest of the Ziggurats. Mmm...now I crave a Zagnut.
moonbat wrote:
Great album. Dark as hell, but great.
Driver8, would that temple be considered a ziggurat? Cute dog.
isn't that (ziggurat) a candy bar? i keed!
I guess it could be considered a ziggurat. Wiki reports about ziggurats in mesopatamia while this one is in Egypt. Something of note:
Joseph Campbell in his Masks of God books says that there is archaelogical evidence supporting a direct link between Mesopotamian ziggurats and the pyramids of Egypt. Campbell also states that from Egypt, the Mesopotamian culture was passed on almost simultaneously on two separate fronts to Crete and India. From India it reached China and from there it crossed the ocean to the pre-columbian societies of Central and South America, which could explain the similarities between ziggurats and Mayan pyramids.
Shades of The The in this number, the singer sounding more than a little like Holly Johnson. IMO naturally :)
Definitely not a cover of the Grateful Dead's Ripple. Now that would be something to hear, wouldn't it?
Great album. Dark as hell, but great.
Driver8, would that temple be considered a ziggurat? Cute dog.
High lights from research by Joseph Burns :
1) It is the Step Pyramid of King Zoser of the Third Dynasty - who reigned from c2780 to 2720 BC.
2) The Step Pyramid is found at the site of Saqqara in Egypt and pre-dates what we commonly know as the pyramids and is built differently.
3) Historians say it is the 'first' pyramid built with 'steps', while later pyramids are big triangular mountains of rock.
4) Its creator, Imhotep, came to be deified in later Egyptian tradition. He is the first artist whose name has been recorded in history, and deservedly so, since his acheivement is standing still today."
5) Under King Zoser, a set calendar in egypt of 365 days started in 2772. Also this period has the first reports of domesticated dogs in Egypt.
6) The dog that graces the album cover is in fact called Spot, and not Fido as many scholars have suggested.
Reminds me of Love and Rockets-
jadewahoo wrote:
The only church I pay attention to is The Church.
rixtar99 wrote:
figures
Which means what?
TIGS
jadewahoo wrote:
The only church I pay attention to is The Church.
figures
A Love and Rocket's chaser would be tasty right about now...topherg87 wrote:
i dont much care for this...
Nope, me neither.
Gimmicky.
i dont much care for this...
The only church I pay attention to is The Church.
I feel like I'm 18 again. Glad I'm not so moody anymore. Good to hear The Church again. 
Yeah! Brilliant!
I seem to remember that the video to this was sort of...well...ripply...or maybe it was one too many VBs. 
YYYYEEEAAHHH, BERRRBERRR!!!
I am SO SO SO glad I did not go out to lunch right now like I was thinking of.
jdorn1 wrote:
The Starfish album was great, but there is a even BETTER music by The Church. Something off of Remote Luxury or Seance woud be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttt! I guess I'll have to do some uploading of my own.
Thanks to you who got The Church into the RP playlis
You're welcome, re this particular song. :)
The Starfish album was great, but there is a even BETTER music by The Church. Something off of Remote Luxury or Seance woud be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttt! I guess I'll have to do some uploading of my own.
Thanks to you who got The Church into the RP playlis
love The Church. Love his voice. 
Note to Bill: It's not Church. It's THE Church!
Bill, kudos on the very informative segue! (The song that came before it in this playlist was Tom Petty - Love is a Long Road.) Clearly, the repeated driving chords are very similar, if not the same, though the songs are indeed quite different.
ladyj wrote:
wow!! yeah really, thanks. I love this album. never thought anything would get accepted from this one. Do you think they might like something from the "Sometime Anywhere"?
Surely "Two Places At Once" belongs in the library!
drH wrote:
You're welcome! 
wow!! yeah really, thanks. I love this album. never thought anything would get accepted from this one. Do you think they might like something from the "Sometime Anywhere"?
Ngoziman wrote:
Thanks for uploading this - haven't heard it for years.
You're welcome!
Thanks for uploading this - haven't heard it for years.
Nerd complaint: The lyric "you're so fifty light years ahead of your time" --- A light year is a measure of distance, not a time period.... Get it straight people!
Unless you use a system of units where the speed of light is 1 (no unit). Then the unit for time and length are identical (usually not lightyear, but why not).
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...)