Kristin Hoffmann — Mary
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Sometimes when I open my eyes
I see the things that I can't hide
Emptiness hanging from the shadows on the wall
Sometimes when I open my ears
Hear all the things I don't want to hear
4AM, faith is lost, she's screaming out again
And I say Mary, Mary
Mother full of light
When you gonna come down
And save us
Save us from this night
Oh, I say Mary, Mary
When you gonna hear
When you gonna come down
And take away
This bucket full
This bucket full of tears?
I tried to compromise
Saw the world through other's eyes
In the end, the battle came and left me on the ground
So many ways to fall
We seem to find them all
Tripping through the rubble as we fight within ourselves
And I say Mary, Mary
Mother full of light
When you gonna come down
And save us
Save us from this night
Oh, I say Mary, Mary
When you gonna hear
When you gonna come down
And take away
This bucket full
This bucket full of tears?
Impossible, impossible
Are the things that we make implausible
Implausible, implausible
Are the things that become impossible
We risk it all
We pay the toll
To a place that we've never been before
I won't be going back now
Mary, Mary
When you gonna fly
When you gonna come down
And say the words
To hush this endless cry
Oh, I say Mary, Mary
When you gonna hear
When you gonna come down
And take away
This bucket full
This bucket full of tears?
Oh, Mary
This bucket full
Of tears
I see the things that I can't hide
Emptiness hanging from the shadows on the wall
Sometimes when I open my ears
Hear all the things I don't want to hear
4AM, faith is lost, she's screaming out again
And I say Mary, Mary
Mother full of light
When you gonna come down
And save us
Save us from this night
Oh, I say Mary, Mary
When you gonna hear
When you gonna come down
And take away
This bucket full
This bucket full of tears?
I tried to compromise
Saw the world through other's eyes
In the end, the battle came and left me on the ground
So many ways to fall
We seem to find them all
Tripping through the rubble as we fight within ourselves
And I say Mary, Mary
Mother full of light
When you gonna come down
And save us
Save us from this night
Oh, I say Mary, Mary
When you gonna hear
When you gonna come down
And take away
This bucket full
This bucket full of tears?
Impossible, impossible
Are the things that we make implausible
Implausible, implausible
Are the things that become impossible
We risk it all
We pay the toll
To a place that we've never been before
I won't be going back now
Mary, Mary
When you gonna fly
When you gonna come down
And say the words
To hush this endless cry
Oh, I say Mary, Mary
When you gonna hear
When you gonna come down
And take away
This bucket full
This bucket full of tears?
Oh, Mary
This bucket full
Of tears
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Blah doesn't quite capture just how bothersome that vocal is. Dead on with the failed McLachlan thought. Really painful.
annie_fannie wrote:
annie_fannie wrote:
nice piano work, but blah to the voice! someone is trying too hard to be sarah mclachlan...but missing the mark.
Anyone else reminded of "Dear God" by XTC? Similar melody lines.
I have seen this girl perform live at Cafe Vivaldi's listening room in NYC> she was such an inspiration. Angelic vocals and excellent songwriting... turns out she's a nice person too.
nice piano work, but blah to the voice! someone is trying too hard to be sarah mclachlan...but missing the mark.
This tune reminds me a little of an amazing song by the obscure band Fleming & John called "Comfortable", which incidentally is among my favorite songs ever. I wonder if there's an influence either way.
anniebear wrote: OMG too frelling funny!
PS if anyone is interested, "Mary" is how the "Church" twisted the Godess into something less than "god"
History took the Goddess away. Male history. But she is still there.
get serio7us if youy have to man...i'll still be here later keep my eye on you
randomprime wrote:
Any chance we could hear some Rush?
Yeah! C'mon Bill. Play something from Rush. Anything would be great.
Any chance we could hear some Rush? Great song ruined by an incredibly clumsy ending.
1wolfy wrote:
Any chance we could hear some Rush?
...if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...
Any chance we could hear some Rush?
anniebear wrote:
Actually annanyc, I WAS being sarcastic and belittling to xtianity. I se no reason whatsoever to be "respectful" to something so poisonous, dangerous and (dare I say) DISRESPECTFUL as belief in an imaginary skygod. The sooner we leave behind this thousands of years old mumbo jumbo, the sooner we can tackle REAL problems, like starvation, global ecological degredation, war, etc. All they skygod believers can just die for all I care, because they are not helping anything, THEY are the ones making this world meaner, courser, uglier, and so much STUPIDER.
Unfortunately, you are quite correct that the history of Christianity is studded with individuals who do and say horrible things in Christ's name, or conversely, fail to follow that whole "love thy neighbor" thing. In the present day, some of those individuals happen to also be the loudest and most obnoxious to claim the mantle of Christianity, and as such, they give entire denominations a bad name.
I think there are more than a few Christians who are inspired by this "mumbo jumbo" to do good in the world, whether that is bringing food and medicine to the most needy, advocating sound environmental policy (I've generally seen this referred to as Caring for Creation), or peace (Quakers, among many others).
That all said, there are entire arenas of public discourse, in particular the sciences and public policy, where faith should have no place in decision-making. I suspect such attempted theocratic methods are what make you see Christianity (I note you don't mention other religions... may I ask why?) as a dangerous meme.
Finally, in the US at least, it's about freedom *of* religion (worship whatever you want, or not at all), not freedom *from* religion. I think a healthy faith life can be full integrated with a rational worldview.
beware the deceiver...if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice..sound familiar ?anniebear wrote:
All I can say is, read Richard Dawkins' book The God Delusion and find real truth. Set yourself free of superstitious mumbo jumbo bullshit before it's too late for all of us.
This one got my attention even with the volume down low...intense song !
anniebear wrote:
Actually annanyc, I WAS being sarcastic and belittling to xtianity. I se no reason whatsoever to be "respectful" to something so poisonous, dangerous and (dare I say) DISRESPECTFUL as belief in an imaginary skygod. The sooner we leave behind this thousands of years old mumbo jumbo, the sooner we can tackle REAL problems, like starvation, global ecological degredation, war, etc. All they skygod believers can just die for all I care, because they are not helping anything, THEY are the ones making this world meaner, courser, uglier, and so much STUPIDER.
Yes folks, intolerance, ignorance, and disrespect does exist at all poles, across all demographic divides. Nice generous helping of broad generalization here to boot!
4 this song..........nulla di che
annanyc wrote:
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anniebear wrote:
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OMG too frelling funny!
PS if anyone is interested, "Mary" is how the "Church" twisted the Godess into something less than "god"
UltraNurd wrote:
I am interested in the history of religion, and although I'm not Catholic, I just wanted to point out that there are Christians who listen to RP who might find your sarcasm quotes somewhat belittling.
If I may insert my 2 cents here, I'm not reading the quotation marks as sarcasm, if she uses it the way I would, I think she is referring to the Church as a political entity and Mary as the character that has been created by that political entity. I'm assuming that she is saying that what we have come to know as Mary is not historically accurate, or what the political organization says is not in line with her spiritual views. Basically, separating the idealogy from the entity for the purpose of looking at the issue historically. I don't think she's belittling anyone. Just my observation.
Actually annanyc, I WAS being sarcastic and belittling to xtianity. I se no reason whatsoever to be "respectful" to something so poisonous, dangerous and (dare I say) DISRESPECTFUL as belief in an imaginary skygod. The sooner we leave behind this thousands of years old mumbo jumbo, the sooner we can tackle REAL problems, like starvation, global ecological degredation, war, etc. All they skygod believers can just die for all I care, because they are not helping anything, THEY are the ones making this world meaner, courser, uglier, and so much STUPIDER.
DrCyKosis wrote:All I can say is, read Richard Dawkins' book The God Delusion and find real truth. Set yourself free of superstitious mumbo jumbo bullshit before it's too late for all of us.
I lament the fact that ancient tribal myths HAVE always (and WILL always) cause division of mankind.
All religions proclaim love...as long as it's their version.
Sounds like Paula Cole.
DrCyKosis wrote:
I lament the fact that ancient tribal myths HAVE always (and WILL always) cause division of mankind.
All religions proclaim love. . . as long as it's their version.
That is so deep and profound. Is the doctor in your name due to your divinity degree?
Me,I get morose when the bakery is out of jelly doughnuts.
I lament the fact that ancient tribal myths HAVE always (and WILL always) cause division of mankind.
All religions proclaim love...as long as it's their version.
Love this song. Most of the rest of the album is forgetable.
Hannio wrote:
But that's not really for you to say, is it? And God has always used the human hand, such as in His many dealings with Israel in biblical times.
I didn't say it. Please read the Biblical quote from Revelation and you'll see that God said it. You might like to compare it with Ezequiel chap 38, especially Ez 38:4, 10 bis. God said this also.
By the way, there are almost countless examples of God using angelic hands rather than human hands when excercising judgement. In fact even in what you call Biblical times, He made a point of giving victory not by human hand by making sure the odds were completely against victory by force of numbers in all battles fought by Israel.
Hannio wrote:
But that's not really for you to say, is it? And God has always used the human hand, such as in His many dealings with Israel in biblical times.
Truth is that God slumbers since the time of Creation. Jehovah was the Archai who oversaw the evolution of ancient Hebrew consciousness & the Christ event made obsolete those ancient laws. Death is no more a justification for further human development. Cut the crap, Texas....
algrif wrote:
God has his appointed time for war, but it is not now, and it is not by means of any human hand.
But that's not really for you to say, is it? And God has always used the human hand, such as in His many dealings with Israel in biblical times.
Hannio wrote:
There is a time for peace, and there is a time for war.
In ages past this held true. Since the line was drawn in the sand there has been zero justification.
Following Prince, When Doves Cry, just isn't fair. I'm completely unable to stop laughing (at the previous song) and this is waaaay too serious. 
Hannio wrote:
There is a time for peace, and there is a time for war.
God has his appointed time for war, but it is not now, and it is not by means of any human hand. Politicians of every colour, and false religious bigots please take note. Rev. 14:14-16
algrif wrote:
And a hypocrite is a person who claims to be God fearing (in any way you want to take that) but does not do what God has said to do. War-mongers in particular take note.
There is a time for peace, and there is a time for war.
physicsgenius wrote:
Well, if God existed he might have done this.
Hot.
cbonai wrote: "A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own." (That is a defination I found out there, btw). How tolerant pro-religious folks?
And a hypocrite is a person who claims to be God fearing (in any way you want to take that) but does not do what God has said to do. War-mongers in particular take note.
cbonai wrote:
"A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own." (That is a defination I found out there, btw). How tolerant pro-religious folks?
I am well aware that there are lots of religious people who are bigots. Just like all other humans. Whats your point?
Ok, I seriously thought, when I heard "Mary, Mary" that this is Sarah McLachlan
ploafmaster wrote:
Okay, religious discussion aside, her singing just drives me insane.
It sounds like she's hurting herself most of the time.
Agreed!
physicsgenius wrote:
Well, if God existed he might have done this.
YEAH ROCK ON.
Okay, religious discussion aside, her singing just drives me insane.
It sounds like she's hurting herself most of the time.
Give me Patty Griffin "Mary" over this any day!
jerkstore wrote:
thanks for trying to save me.
You're welcome. Have a nice day.
algrif wrote:
There's loads of people who read the Highway Code (or similar driving law code books depending the country) and still don't take a blind bit of notice and so have 'accidents' and kill people.
See where I'm going with this? GWB might profess to be what ever he likes, but it doesn't mean he follows what is written in the Bible. He probably hasn't even read it.
Just shushh yourself and actually read the good book, would you?
i think i'd rather go to hell and hang out with George W....but thanks for trying to save me.
I'm not a particularly religious person and have issues with the Catholic church on a number of issues. Having said that, I can appreciate the lyrics and the vocals of this piece. I like it.
jerkstore wrote:
"aquired stupidities" - gotta love that one...
All i know is that George W is a firm believer, and look what he has done for our country, with "God on our side".. obviously, reading the bible does not make you any smarter then someone who has not. This site is not for you to push religious crap on anyone...just shush and listen please, thanks, and God Bless.
There's loads of people who read the Highway Code (or similar driving law code books depending the country) and still don't take a blind bit of notice and so have 'accidents' and kill people.
See where I'm going with this? GWB might profess to be what ever he likes, but it doesn't mean he follows what is written in the Bible. He probably hasn't even read it.
Just shushh yourself and actually read the good book, would you?
anniebear wrote:
wrote:
OMG too frelling funny!
PS if anyone is interested, "Mary" is how the "Church" twisted the Godess into something less than "god"
UltraNurd wrote:
I am interested in the history of religion, and although I'm not Catholic, I just wanted to point out that there are Christians who listen to RP who might find your sarcasm quotes somewhat belittling.
If I may insert my 2 cents here, I'm not reading the quotation marks as sarcasm, if she uses it the way I would, I think she is referring to the Church as a political entity and Mary as the character that has been created by that political entity. I'm assuming that she is saying that what we have come to know as Mary is not historically accurate, or what the political organization says is not in line with her spiritual views. Basically, separating the idealogy from the entity for the purpose of looking at the issue historically. I don't think she's belittling anyone. Just my observation.
like we need another sarah mclaughlin wannabe whiner? 
Mary, Mary when you gonna save us from this Bushy night?
When you gonna drag away this bucket full a...
algrif wrote:
Hey Read back and you'll see that Kurt_from_La_Qui was just trying to put the record a bit straighter. If only all these opinionated anti-Bible folks would actually read the Bible before condeming it... 
Some of the statements I've just been reading below demonstrate oh so clearly that they haven't read a thing. They are just passing on aquired stupitities that they've listened to from other people who never read it either.
"aquired stupidities" - gotta love that one...
All i know is that George W is a firm believer, and look what he has done for our country, with "God on our side".. obviously, reading the bible does not make you any smarter then someone who has not. This site is not for you to push religious crap on anyone...just shush and listen please, thanks, and God Bless.
Some of the statements I've just been reading below demonstrate oh so clearly that they haven't read a thing. They are just passing on aquired stupitities that they've listened to from other people who never read it either.Kurt_from_La_Qui wrote:
well... it looks like another expert that really has never understood the bible story. and you should really investigate what TRUE bible christians believe.
Gee whiz, are you the guy to define TRUE Christians and what THEY believe?
Nice song.
jerkstore wrote:
Some of the statements I've just been reading below demonstrate oh so clearly that they haven't read a thing. They are just passing on aquired stupitities that they've listened to from other people who never read it either.
...
im sorry, is that terminology too offensive for TRUE bible Christians?
Hey Read back and you'll see that Kurt_from_La_Qui was just trying to put the record a bit straighter. If only all these opinionated anti-Bible folks would actually read the Bible before condeming it...
Some of the statements I've just been reading below demonstrate oh so clearly that they haven't read a thing. They are just passing on aquired stupitities that they've listened to from other people who never read it either.
delicious
Beautiful song; I gave it an 8.
This is not a good song. Gotta give it a 1.
Kurt_from_La_Qui wrote:
well... it looks like another expert that really has never understood the bible story. and you should really investigate what TRUE bible christians believe.
that killed me....chiiiillll, and enjoy the music..(even though i think this paticular song sucks big time)
im sorry, is that terminology too offensive for TRUE bible Christians?
Eagan wrote:
I stand corrected, according to "wikipedia.org", but a quick look at the lyrics could fool just about anybody.
I assumed it was a religious reference for a long time... I think they mention that it refers to Paul's mom in the Beatles Anthology documentary that was on TV several years ago.
anniebear wrote: OMG too frelling funny!
PS if anyone is interested, "Mary" is how the "Church" twisted the Godess into something less than "god"
I am interested in the history of religion, and although I'm not Catholic, I just wanted to point out that there are Christians who listen to RP who might find your sarcasm quotes somewhat belittling.
Eagan wrote:
Hey all you anti-religeous bigots, there's another one you can flame on the playlist. Try listening to "Let it Be" by the Beatles...... "Mother Mary comes to me"
crystalboy wrote:Actuallly, her was refering to his dear departed mum, Mary McCartney.
Eagan wrote:I stand corrected, according to "wikipedia.org", but a quick look at the lyrics could fool just about anybody.
Anybody who's not an "anti-religeous bigot" I guess.
Eagan wrote:
Hey all you anti-religeous bigots, there's another one you can flame on the playlist. Try listening to "Let it Be" by the Beatles...... "Mother Mary comes to me"
"A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own." (That is a defination I found out there, btw). How tolerant pro-religious folks?
oh no, not with an hour of work left...blahhhh
Kurt_from_La_Qui wrote:
well... it looks like another expert that really has never understood the bible story. and you should really investigate what TRUE bible christians believe.
Huey wrote:
Who cares...
That cracked me up.
I swear I thought the beginning of this song was Kip Adotta's Wet Dream!
/moving through the gulf stream...
theo wrote:OMG too frelling funny!
PS if anyone is interested, "Mary" is how the "Church" twisted the Godess into something less than "god"
And I thought she was calling out for Mary Poppins.
crystalboy wrote:
Actuallly, her was refering to his dear departed mum, Mary McCartney.
I stand corrected, according to "wikipedia.org", but a quick look at the lyrics could fool just about anybody.
talus wrote:
I just love "my mythological figure can beat up your mythological figure" debates.
I just love "my mythological figure can beat up your mythological figure" debates.
Jacksonstat wrote:
I have to agree. I'm half tempted to go get yet another cup of coffee!
that's probably because sophomoric 'gina music is best left in the coffee houses...
I have to agree. I'm half tempted to go get yet another cup of coffee!
joelb wrote:
This set is putting me into a coma
Eagan wrote:
Hey all you anti-religeous bigots, there's another one you can flame on the playlist. Try listening to "Let it Be" by the Beatles...... "Mother Mary comes to me"
Actuallly, her was refering to his dear departed mum, Mary McCartney.
theo wrote:as in theology
And I thought she was calling out for Mary Poppins.
-LOL!
...and your tag is theo:
Kristin Hoffmann was a cornflake girl...
This set is putting me into a coma
And I thought she was calling out for Mary Poppins.
I don't get the comparisons to Tori Amos, who I really don't care for. I hear Bird York, and the approximate range of Sheryl Crow, but definitely not Tori. Because there's a piano in the song? Pretty easy criteria...
Likeable tune.
Compelling..not convincing in the wider sense but definitely compelling.
(pimp)
Hey all you anti-religeous bigots, there's another one you can flame on the playlist. Try listening to "Let it Be" by the Beatles...... "Mother Mary comes to me"
Cliche psuedo-proselytizing.
madtowner11 wrote:
p.s. Neil Young's voice makes the Baby Jebus cry.
That is great.
And I will never understand the Catholic Mary-worship thingy.
Oh, and I agree. There is no need for another Tori Amos. One is too many.
drover wrote:
One Tori Amos is already too many.
One Tori Amos is already too many.
Kurt_from_La_Qui wrote:
well... it looks like another expert that really has never understood the bible story. and you should really investigate what TRUE bible christians believe.
Who cares...
colt4x5 wrote:
don't know about god's word, but the bible is the scratchings of a bunch of cranky old men who wanted to set down rules for the competing tribes of several thousand years ago. you know, like the one god thing (centralizing power) and the don't covet your neighbor's stuff (stay out of my tent) and so on. whatever your position on christ being the son of whatever-your-position-on-god-is, most of the bible was written by pre-christians and then when things started to get funky again, the christians stepped in to add more chapters and get their own folks to march in step. oh yeah, and then the christian churches took over and started slaughtering people who weren't just like them. that's always been the high point for me.
not that i have an opinion on it ...
well... it looks like another expert that really has never understood the bible story. and you should really investigate what TRUE bible christians believe.
I usually consider myself a tough judge, but I really like this song. :)
trekhead wrote:
Well, if you consider that GOD's word is The Bible, ....yeah. It's not INSIDE info, though, open for everyone, just look. He wouldn't have sent His Son to die for us, if He was going to have Mary perform redemptive abilities. Doesn't mention that. Not being cocky, hope it helps.
don't know about god's word, but the bible is the scratchings of a bunch of cranky old men who wanted to set down rules for the competing tribes of several thousand years ago. you know, like the one god thing (centralizing power) and the don't covet your neighbor's stuff (stay out of my tent) and so on. whatever your position on christ being the son of whatever-your-position-on-god-is, most of the bible was written by pre-christians and then when things started to get funky again, the christians stepped in to add more chapters and get their own folks to march in step. oh yeah, and then the christian churches took over and started slaughtering people who weren't just like them. that's always been the high point for me.
not that i have an opinion on it ...
I hesitate to get into this, but I think the point is being missed here. I don't think she is making religious claims about being saved and whatnot. i think she is speaking allegorically and artistically, not to mention feministically. Mary is a mother figure. I think she is feeling frustrated with the world and the state of affairs today and sometimes when one feels vulnerable like that, a mother is comforting. Maybe she's saying that the world needs it's proverbial mommy because we're getting out of hand. Or, looking at it a different way, maybe Mary is just the same of someone she knows who's passed and she's calling to her for guidance.
trekhead wrote:
Well, if you consider that GOD's word is The Bible, ....yeah. It's not INSIDE info, though, open for everyone, just look. He wouldn't have sent His Son to die for us, if He was going to have Mary perform redemptive abilities. Doesn't mention that. Not being cocky, hope it helps.
Well, if God existed he might have done this.
kmh wrote:
DO YOU HAVE SOME INSIDE INFO THAT THE REST OF OF DON'T? DID GOD TELL YOU THAT PERSONALLY ?
Well, if you consider that GOD's word is The Bible, ....yeah. It's not INSIDE info, though, open for everyone, just look. He wouldn't have sent His Son to die for us, if He was going to have Mary perform redemptive abilities. Doesn't mention that. Not being cocky, hope it helps.
Again, my ovaries are humming hearing this song.
makes me wish I was a female with a daddy complex,
maybe I'd get.
Aah, my roomie pointed it out; it's ESTROROCK!
Whattaya want, two guys in a small office working on fashion images.
Hmmmmmm, if I was pregnant in a society where promiscuity was frowned upon under penalty of death, I suppose I'd claim that it was actually "God" who impregnated me. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Heck, they were so naive back then that I could go back with a Bic lighter and I'd be the freakin' messiah.
p.s. Neil Young's voice makes the Baby Jebus cry.
blythemeteor wrote:
yeah umm.. Mary was cool and all but- shes no savior lol :headshake: she can't help ya lady!!!
DO YOU HAVE SOME INSIDE INFO THAT THE REST OF OF DON'T? DID GOD TELL YOU THAT PERSONALLY ?
I think this is a really cool sounding song, but I agree with the "mary is not a savior" sentiment.
Cool ! 8)
First time I've heard her as well, lovely.
hmmmm... i wonder if shes related?... to me.
trekhead wrote:
Here we go again... when will people see it won't be MARY that " comes down to save us..." A 2....
yeah umm.. Mary was cool and all but- shes no savior lol :headshake: she can't help ya lady!!!
Here we go again... when will people see it won't be MARY that " comes down to save us..." A 2....
agaran wrote:
Shares some of Tori Amos' more attractive characteristics (musically speaking).
derivative of McLachlan as well ... but done well
Alanur wrote:
I think this is the first time I am listening to Kristin Hoffman. And I am liking it.
True dat yo.
Shares some of Tori Amos' more attractive characteristics (musically speaking).
I think this is the first time I am listening to Kristin Hoffman. And I am liking it.
I've seen her live once, it was awesome...though I guess I first heard her when this song was in an episode of Dawson's Creek
That's exactly what it reminds me of! Not nearly as good, though.